19 July 2008

Islam & The Future Scenarios for Europe

By the Observer

Taken from Gates of Vienna

A scenario that has been widely debated over the last decades is a possible Muslim takeover of Europe within the next 30-40 years. It has become somewhat of an academic puzzle for the politically correct elites, a question that must be discussed, but not taken too literally. After all, according to this elite, the Muslims will eventually integrate into our societies, provided we treat them properly and give them enough time. They are simply Europeans with another color and cultural background. Nothing to really worry about.

For others with a more highly developed sense of survival instinct, this scenario is the cause of grave concern. It’s simply a problem that has to be dealt with, whether we like it or not, and the fact that we’re starting to shed light on it, is a sign that we’re willing to do so. The first step of solving a problem is to admit that we actually have one.

But there’s one scenario that hasn’t been debated to nearly the same extent, and that is how this eventual transformation from a Christian to an Islamic continent will manifest itself.

Will it be a violent clash between the two cultures that will leave the continent in ruins?

Will western Europe resemble war torn Chechnya after the final battles have been fought?

Or will it be a peaceful takeover, where the Europeans simply concede defeat and succumb to the stronger and much more aggressive tactics of the newcomers?

Or will the Europeans rise up to this challenge and resist the onslaught from the invading Muslims, and eventually win this fight?

I believe there are six possible outcomes to this crisis:
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1. The Muslims will win by sticking to democratic principles. Peaceful victory.
2. The Muslims will win by undemocratic principles. Terror campaigns and intimidation.
3. The native populations of Europe will revolt and defeat the Muslims. A revolt.
4. Major terrorist attacks will cause the governments in Europe to reconsider their position on Muslim immigration, and start the deportations of Muslims on a grand scale.
5. A coexistence between the two cultures, where both groups are given an equal status. Not a very likely scenario.
6. An uneasy status quo, where immigration is curbed, and the Muslims will forever be a minority.

At the present time alternative #1 looks to be the most likely outcome, but of course things could change in a heartbeat. If there’s one thing that history has taught us, it is that rapid change is the norm rather than the exception.

There’s no question that the liberal laws of the present European governments work in the Muslims’ favor. All they have to do is sit back, act in accordance with the democratic principles in the societies they reside in, and high birthrates and the open border policies of the West will make them a majority within the next couple of generations.

All they need to do is blend in and seize control when they’re strong enough to do so.

But of course, there are several factors that need to be brought into the equation. Political views that are considered the norm today can easily be discarded for more radical and pragmatic ideas in the future. We’ve witnessed liberal European governments introduce very tough immigration and asylum laws, and others could follow suit.

So let’s assume that things stay the way they are for the next thirty years. Let’s assume that the European governments decide to introduce tougher anti-discrimination laws, and clamp down on what they view as anti-Muslim sentiments. Let’s also assume that they start persecuting people with opposing views on this issue. The immigration would then continue, and quite possibly accelerate, making it next to impossible to prevent Muslims from becoming a majority in Europe.

If this scenario were to take place, the question one would have to ask is: what kind of society would rise up from the ashes? Would we get a moderate form of Euro-Islam, like the proponents of the multicultural society hope for, where a relatively moderate Muslim population would accept and tolerate other religions and values? Or would they, with or without democratic means, decide to introduce an Islamic caliphate, where Sharia law takes superiority over existing criminal laws?

Like many other people, I see the term Euro-Islam simply as a smokescreen that the elites use as a means to try to pacify the native populations of Europe.

Let’s face it, Muslims believe in the writings of the Holy Koran, and not in any utopian illusions that some non-believing bureaucrats in Europe may hold. It is my opinion that the Muslims would use our undying belief in democracy against us if it came down to it, and simply point out the obvious, which would be, that they won the referendum fair and square and they’re going to introduce the Islamic caliphate whether we like it or not. And technically this would be within the boundaries of accepted democratic rules. What the majority decides, goes. The native Europeans would then have to decide whether to accept this new regime or not.

Alternative #2 is also a likely outcome. We’ve seen the emergence of radical Muslim elements in our societies that are advocating such a solution. We’ve had several devastating terrorist attacks within the last few years that has have made us reconsider our beliefs that we live in free and open democratic societies.

These attacks along with other forms of intimidation have already eroded some of our freedoms. We think twice about criticizing Islam in public, and we refrain from publishing any drawings that could be deemed offensive to the Muslim community. There is no question in my mind that the results of the scare tactics are viewed as small victories among radical Muslims, and only make them more determined to push forward with their plans for overthrowing our democratic societies.

It doesn’t take that much effort to subjugate the masses. And a small group of highly dedicated and trained individuals could easily wreak havoc in our societies if they so choose. If ordinary people feel that they’re putting their lives on the line just by venturing down to the local supermarket or by simply hopping on the tube to go to work, we’ve entered a very critical phase.

If we end up with a spiral of violence in Europe on a similar magnitude of, let’s say, South Africa, where crime is a very real part of everyday life, we’ve passed a point of no return. How long could we survive in such a violent environment? The next natural progression would be a situation similar to the one we have in parts of Iraq, a total breakdown of law and order. If the governments should prove unsuccessful in weeding out the insurgents in such an environment, which is the most likely scenario? Would it be that unheard of for them to try an negotiate a truce? European politicians have been keen advocates of “land for peace” deals in other parts of the world. Would they consider such an option in Europe if the result would be a cessation of hostilities?

The third possible scenario would be the creation of armed European resistance groups. This is very plausible option. We’ve seen such groups operate in Europe before, both during and after the Second World War. If people feel they’re being pushed too far, they’ll eventually start to push back. In the novel Hvitvasking (Money laundry) by Tom Kristiensen (Norwegian author), a clandestine group of Norwegian patriots plans to rid Norway of third-world immigrants. The methods they rely upon are similar to those the terrorists use in present-day Iraq, a war of intimidation and scare tactics. They try to create an environment so hostile and dangerous that the immigrants themselves choose to leave the country.

I believe this would be the tactic of choice adopted by such resistance groups. It has proven highly successful in other parts of the world, such as Iraq and Sudan, just to mention a few. It is very hard to fight such unconventional guerrilla groups, mostly because they can hide amongst the civilian population after they’ve carried out their attacks. It would also be very easy for them to identify members of the Muslim population, but equally difficult for the Muslims and the authorities to identify members of these resistance groups, simply because the members of these groups share the same ethnicity as the majority population in Europe. I am of the opinion that everyone sooner or later will succumb to these scare tactics. Just as the native European population are intimidated by radical Muslims at the present time, Muslims would be equally intimidated by Europeans if they were targeted in a similar way. It would be a totally new experience for them.

The fourth possible scenario is one where terrorist attacks just become too frequent and the loss of lives too hard to tolerate, or that the elite themselves are being targeted by the terrorists. If we get frequent terrorist attacks on the same scale as 9/11 or even bigger, say the partial or total destruction of some of our major cities, it would next to impossible for European governments not to introduce radical measures to rid themselves of this threat. If the number of terrorist attack victims reach into the tens of thousands, or possibly even hundreds of thousands, they would have to act. It is not unthinkable that mass deportation of Muslims then would take place, and that the creation of detention camps like the one at Guantanamo Bay would go ahead.

If, on the other hand, after incidents like these, some politicians still wouldn’t act, something that’s very unlikely, it would still create an ambiance where more radical and pragmatic politicians would win landslide elections, and the execution of these plans would go ahead. I think ordinary people’s survival instinct would override any other human instincts, including any utopian reference to human rights and religious freedom.

A fifth scenario is a peaceful or hostile coexistence between the two cultures. Where both are granted equal status, and where segregation, both cultural and demographic, only increases. It would be a continuation of today’s status quo. This is not a very plausible scenario, because both cultures have shown their unwillingness to live under such unnatural conditions. Sooner or later one of the cultures would resort to undemocratic methods to exert their will over the other.

The sixth scenario is one where the governments of Europe finally see the dangers of the influx of immigrants, and ban immigration from third world countries altogether, but allow the ones that are already here to stay. This could be the outcome if the people in Europe elect radical right-wing politicians to office. As described above, they introduce tough new measures to stop the rapid growth of immigrants in Europe. Maybe they would go as far as introducing a one-child policy for all third-world immigrants, or resort to other economic sanctions to achieve this goal. They could possibly even ban Islam altogether in Europe, or at least ban the radical approach to the religion that the Islamists follow.

This would then lead to a situation where Europe forever would have an ethnic minority within its borders, a continuation of the present day situation. The Muslims living in Europe could then of course choose to either sever all ties to their native countries and perhaps reform their religion, or still choose to cling on to their old culture and strive to change the system to their advantage.

No matter what happens to this continent, whether a full scale war breaks out or not, it’s going to get very nasty. I believe that a rapid deterioration will first occur in one nation, and then others will follow in its track, or chose to introduce countermeasures to prevent a similar fate. It is na├»ve to expect that an atmosphere of tranquil coexistence is going to last forever here in Europe.

War and hostilities have been the norm here, and not the exception. That’s probably also how it’s going to be in the future.


Findalis said...

Of the 6 scenarios I see Europe falling under only 2. The first one in which the Muslims win by just doing nothing. They have the numbers and laws on their side. The problem with that is that the third scenario then pops up. A resistance to Islam and Shar'ia law would work, but only if the community that the resistance members are part of doesn't turn them in. I suspect that there would be reprisals and assassinations for any one who would cooperate with the Islamic regime.

The second one is the 4th scenario. I don't see Muslim stopping terror attacks. It is in the nature of Jihad to carry out such attacks and I am sure more 7/7s are being planned even as I write this. Constant Vigilance is the key to overcoming this. The elistists keep the intelligence services from collecting the data they need to prevent such attacks, and in the end they will be the worst hit of the victims of such attacks.

I do not see a day where any nation in Europe would give up land for peace. It would be suicide for any nation that tries to.

Anonymous said...

Major terrorist attacks will cause the governments in Europe to reconsider their position on Muslim immigration, and start the deportations of Muslims on a grand scale.

The white Briton speaking his mind is engaged in a terrorist act according to the government.

So whose terrorist attacks are you refering to here?

White Britons need to engage in "terrorism" to get their country back.

Muslims don't even need terrorism anymore, they have government unpunished aggravated assault and rioting now, which can finish the job.

Joanne said...

There are over 100,000 sets of American boots on the ground in Iraq and still not one Iraqi Christian is safe, so how safe should the average European feel when there is no one to protect them from Muslim assassins.

Jock McDoc said...

I have to agree that the option for a peaceful coexistence is unlikely as well. The simple fact is radical Moslems look towards Hudna as a way of getting their aims.

For those unaware of Hudna, it is a concept of ceasefire by Moslem's towards non-Moslem's which are observed until they are strong enough to be able to look for more favourable terms.


I don't want to comment on the other options but I do want to make a comment towards the following part of the article:

"But of course, there are several factors that need to be brought into the equation. Political views that are considered the norm today can easily be discarded for more radical and pragmatic ideas in the future. We’ve witnessed liberal European governments introduce very tough immigration and asylum laws, and others could follow suit."

The word that sticks out is Liberal. What we are seeing in the UK with the present socialist Labour government is being forced by circumstances in which they have created to use "right wing" policies which is only papering over the cracks.

There could be a possibility that the people will move from liberalism/socalism to conservatism and elect a government that will start to deal with the root problems.

It is too early to say if this is happening but the signs are encouraging. I base this on my observations from my neck of woods ,Scotland, which has been a traditional base of the Labour party and mainstream politics have always been to the left. People are seriously questioning their support for the party. It is hard to say if this is due to the unpopularity of the present Labour government or that we are turning our backs on Socialism. Only time will tell but if this can happen in Scotland then it will happen in the rest of the UK.

Anonymous said...

THe only real option is a complete win for native Europeans.

Socialists, liberals, and conservatives need to look past their political survival to the real problem of ethnic survival. This is a racist problem at the base of it and I think this is the reason that white people are reticent to defend themselves.

Surely, European men will not choose to let their children become slaves. The future will be violent and the longer we put off confronting the problem, the more violent the future will be.

Members of the armed forces should be thinking about which side they will be on--the traitors in leadership or the natives of Europe.

Hell will be breaking loose soon in Sweden. It's time to toughen up physically and mentally.

Anonymous said...

What a brilliant piece of observation!
Thankyou, LH, for posting here.
From talking to some local "ordinary" people, I would say that many more are aware of the inevitable consequences we are likely to witness.
At the moment, these thoughts are kept under wrap for fear of the "Thought Police."
The ever increasing surveillance on Society, is as much to spy on the majority as the terrorists.
In the current atmosphere it is difficult to do much but talk under one's breath.
I hate to draw the analogy, but just as the Germans hunkered down as Hitler rose to power, and turned a fearful blind eye to the treatment of certain groups, so too we will see the majority turn it's eyes away as a new "Right Wing" government takes power.
Under what circumstances this may happen, who can tell?
It could be the direct use of nuclear weapon by the likes of Iran against a European Country like Italy, or a terrorist Biological attack that actually works.
It mat be none of these.
When it does happen, this Labour?Marxist government have provided them with all the tools to single out those that will not comply, whoever they are.
The future is grim for Islam.
Look how China does not mess about with them.Many many arrested ahead of the Beijing Olympics.
Russia too will not fear to act when it sees the time is right.
The East, such as India, will never succumb to Islam, and will use it's powerful nuclear arsenal in a first strike if provoked.
Do not fear Islam, it is a spent force, and as it's financial lifeline is choked as we move away from the oil economy, by choice or not, it will drift backwards to it's old days of tribal warfare in the sands.
I would guess that their is a 60/40 split in the UK population, and the largest portion will sit on it's hands as the problem is dealt with by people who will not have any qualms about repeating history.
It will be a sad time, for all that was good about Britain's new diversity, will be swept away as the need for self-preservation emerges.
There are plenty of idle youth to fit the boots of the future storm-troops, throughout Europe.
The brainwashing of 50 years of post-war Leftism, will be ground to dust inside 10 years.

Anonymous said...

These scenarios are all about what might happen *inside* European nations, and scarcely consider the issue of international stability. But the West is heavily dependent on oil from Islamic nations; also, passage of that oil requires the absence of major war in the Middle East.


Anonymous said...

If the west every wanted the mid-eastern oil. We could so easily just take it. And don't forget that America has the Strategic Oil Reservse. Which is almost at a billion barrels. We have so we can use it if we were in war with the middle east and couldnt get oil. And thats more than enough to take the shit holes over and then use all the oil we want...if it came to that cicumstance.