Does it not prove how lawless the streets of Luton are in respect to the majority Pakistani Moslem community that lives here is, their total disrespect for British society and what those of us living around here face?
You have problems with this community and look at what happens!
Luton on Sunday Rush hour gunman gets 18 years
A man found guilty of attempted murder was sentenced to 18 years jail today (Monday).
Safraz Majid, 31, of Maidenhall Road, in Luton, was charged with attempted murder, perverting the course of justice and possession of a firearm with intent to endanger life. His two week trial was at Cambridge Crown Court.
The court heard that he shot at cars in the rush hour on the afternoon of Friday, October 20, 2006 in Kingsway, Luton.
A Vauxhall Vectra which had been hired by Majid pulled up in front of an American Hummer and Majid fired several shots into the bodywork.
The person driving the Hummer drove off and was in collision with two other vehicles while trying to get away.
The court also heard that many people were in the area at the time and feared for their lives as a further car passing by was also hit by a bullet.
Majid was also sentenced for six years for possessing a firearm with intent to endanger life and further three years for perverting the course of justice - all sentences will be served concurrently.
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Welcome to what we in the US have been experiencing for the last 30 years. Our killers aren't Muslims when they do the crime, but become Muslims in prison.
Safraz Majid should do very well in prison. I understand that your British prisons are fast becoming great recruitment centers for Muslims, just like American prisons are.
Belmarsh maximum security prison, more than 20%.
Who the heck was driving a Hummer in Luton?
There are only a few in the country.
Only a paranoid person who needs to feel safe in such a monster car.
Luton police, what the crikey is going on under your noses?
Are you all asleep?
Our security is in your hands.
Whose hands are you in?
They have their idols and their sharia death cult,
We have The Bard and two thousand and more years of history culture and growth.
A happy day on William Shakespear's Birthday, to you Lionheart and co!
May your pen be ever sharp and mighty.
"For England and Saint George!"
copied from another news site, apologies.
The Leftist Liberals wanting to believe their own lies.
"The air in the conference room is stale, and the dour mood among those present is not much better. The room smells of sweat, cigarette smoke, cold coffee -- and plenty of problems. That comes with the territory at a meeting of some 100 social workers who work in flashpoints like the London boroughs of Hounslow, Eastleigh and Ealing.
In their districts they often have to deal with angry youth gangs, unemployment and failed integration policies. Today, on this particular Thursday, they have gathered here in the large hall of the Holborn Bars conference center to learn that multiculturalism also has positive aspects and, most importantly, that no one needs to be afraid of Muslims.
Up on the stage, Lucy de Groot, the organizer of the one-day seminar "Cultural Diversity and Social Cohesion," presents “with great pleasure” a speaker whose appearance alone is enough to add a touch of brilliance to this gloomy conference room. Smiling here and nodding there, the “esteemed guest” strides up to the podium with the confidence of an entertainer who has grown accustomed to success. Tariq Ramadan knows how to win people over.
Many of the veteran social workers have an almost enraptured expression on their faces as they look up at the tall, thin man. With his striking features and dark well-trimmed beard, his sand-colored suit with its elegant casualness, the unbuttoned collar of his bright yellow shirt and his slightly dark complexion, Ramadan resembles a Latino singer. “It’s wonderful to be in London,” he says warmly into the microphone. “Thank you very much for inviting me.” Ramadan places the fingertips of his well-manicured hands together and gazes confidently at the audience. His fan club is guaranteed to be even bigger after this afternoon.
Officially, Ramadan, 45, is a professor of Islamic studies in Geneva. But now he has just come from Oxford, where he teaches at St. Antony’s College as a visiting fellow. In effect, Ramadan is something of a modern-day itinerant preacher. His mission is to boost the self-confidence of Europe’s Muslims and to explain his vision of a “European Islam” to Europe’s Christian elite.
The new brand of faith which, according to Ramadan, “is currently taking shape among European Muslims with Islamic-European culture” aims to reconcile Western values with the teachings of Islam. This “Euro-Islam” has allowed Ramadan to win friends among immigrant children and proponents of interreligious dialogue -- and make enemies among right-wing nationalists and hardline Islamists.
Ramadan has given thousands of presentations over the past few years, speaking to a wide range of audiences, including Muslims and Christians, atheists and Jews, church representatives and politicians, industrialists, students and anti-globalization activists. Over the weekend, he made four appearances in France where he spoke to over 2,500 people, mostly young Muslims. Tonight he will speak in Birmingham at a police convention, tomorrow morning his schedule takes him to Blackpool; he can't remember off the top of his head who he's talking to there.
The highly popular speaker can devote little more than half an hour to Lucy de Groot’s seminar. But that’s enough time for a brilliant presenter like Ramadan to talk about his religion, Muslim minorities, integration and exclusion -- and to alleviate the fears of his audience of an impending “clash of civilizations,” as prophesized by Harvard University political scientist Samuel Huntington.
“We start to run into problems when we construct new dividing lines, when we cease to see society as a whole,” says Ramadan to the worn-out-looking men and women sitting at large round tables. “Instead of perceiving Muslims as ‘the other’ or foreigners, try to see them as fellow Englishmen and women.”
All the listeners can do is nod in approval. After all, this man is one of the most prominent Muslims in Europe -- even if he is also one of the most controversial. "
from der Spiegel Online International.
Archetypal Wolf in sheeps clothing speaking to the liberal elite.
Is this the same man whose father or grandfather set up the Moslem brotherhood which was set up to spread Islam from one end of the Earth to the other?
http://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/2007/08/war-of-our-times.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/000753.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Ramadan
A video with music about the Moslem brotherhood.
http://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/2007/07/blog-post.html
"Ramadan is a war leader"
""Some academics have greeted his works with some enthusiasm, detecting liberalising and rationalising tendencies.[24] Paul Donnelly at Salon.com asked rhetorically: "Tariq Ramadan: The Muslim Martin Luther?".[25]
Others however have charged Ramadan with saying different things to different audiences; one thing to radical Islamists or young Muslims, and another to the western media or academia.
Caroline Fourest analysed Tariq Ramadan's 15 books, 1,500 pages of interviews, and approximately 100 recordings,[26][27] and concludes "Ramadan is a war leader," and the "political heir of his grandfather," Hassan al-Banna, stating that his discourse is, "often just a repetition of the discourse that Banna had at the beginning of the 20th century in Egypt," and that he, "presents [al-Banna] as a model to be followed."[3] She argues that "Tariq Ramadan is slippery. He says one thing to his faithful Islamist followers and something else entirely to his Western audience. His choice of words, the formulations he uses – even his tone of voice – vary, chameleon-like, according to his audience.",[28]""
Hmmn, what nice big teeth you have, Grandma.
Erm when is someone a muslim?
By birth right erm, no that is typically jewish.
By the colour of your skin? erm no Islam is for everyone.
By your name? no I don't think so.
Becuase every now and then you visit the mosque to keep you mum and dad happy but like the deaf and dumb you know nothing understand nothing.?
Safraz M ajid is not a muslim.
A muslim is someone who practices the religion,
5 times day,
Fasts during Ramadhan: to reflect on those without and get closer to Allah (SWT) in piety.
Piety is where muslim wishes to be
A muslim pays the Zakat "conditional" obligatory charity for the poor every year.
A muslim is the one who takes care of his or her parents in their old age.
A muslim is the one who treats his neighbour as his own.
A muslim is the one who follows "Every" prophet and messenger that set foot on this planet, Adam, Noah, Abraham, Issac, Ishmael and those form the Israelites, Moses, David, Solomon, Zakariya, John the Baptist, Jesus May Allah Bless and praise them and send my peace (salam) onto them.
A muslim is the one who follows the final in the line of prophecy from the seed of Abraham he came too. The son of Ishmael he is Muhammad (SAW) May the peace and blessing be upon him.
A muslim is the one who DOES not advocate war.
A muslim is the one who does not justify war unless he is the victim and there is no other option.
A muslim does not recognise innocent men, women, children and old - civilians as combatants.
A muslim is the one who tries to set standards in his scoiety. By starting at home and teaching the very atom of society to go and live a god fearing life, one of simplicity, humbleness, not to follow material wealth but seek knowledge from every corner it comes from.
A muslim is the one who gracefully, willfully, humbly accepts Gods Law and submits to God alone - just like every prophet and messenger that came as a guidance to us on this earth.
Not to follow what is of the world but to follow God's law.
A muslim in a non muslim land as an immigrant or by birth or as a revert is commanded to live within the confounds of that land.
Therefore it does not mean a muslim should live outside the law of the land in a non muslim land.
A muslim just like any other human being ( take the monks who were part of a VIOLENT uprising in Nepal ) has the right to protest against persecution.
So Sir if you make me a scapegoat for the failings of Western Economy all over the world, failings of Western Foreign Policy all over the world and deny me my civil liberty as enjoyed by every one else in this Great and Joyous country in which I was born.
Then sir as every on muslim citizen I too have the right to protest.
Because the laws which have made this nation great are misused to make me a scape goat for your IGNORANCE and Economic and Political Failings elsewhere.
Muslim - comes from the word salam
and from the word submission.
He or She is the "descriptive" nature of the word Islam.
Islam is from the arabiya root word of Peace and Submission by loving/knowing your Creat is One. Submit and follow one God alone and acheive everlasting PEACE is the essence of Islam.
The one who practices the beauty of brotherly love, respect to all and everyone, fights in the course of opression muslim and non muslim
( by this I do not mean what is being marketed in the media referring to the horrendous suicide bombers). what I mean is the one who speaks out against wrong, by clearly knowing the difference between wrong and right.
The one who will endure all pain and suffering for himself / herself but not the suffering of others.
Someone who is commanded by God - Who is One and worship him alone - to feed the poor, help the poor and disadvantaged.
so Sir, if this does not describe people you describe as muslim.
Then they are not muslim.
Islam is like a beautiful flower able to grow in the wild and in fertile land. You can not stop it's presence or belittle it.
Stop the PROPAGANDA as one day you will answer to God in Arabiya it is Allah.
Allah is how Jesus calle
d out to the One God. from the root word illah which is the same in Arabic, Aramaic ( language of our beloved Christ ) and Hebrew pronounced eloah.
Al - illah in Aramaic and Arabiya means The One God.
Do not make prophet Jesus an English Speaking messenger, white skin, blue eyed european. He is closer to ISlam than you will ever be Sir.
Christianity was changed into a European / Roman religion and you continue to spout the romanic arrogance and ignorance and hatred for the truth on the One God.
Believers stood up to Romans and died for no reason take the 1st generation followers of Christ - the jewish followers persecuted by the mighty ROme.
Today Rome has power houses in Europe and America and once again you deny God.
You do not follow God nor love thy neighbour.
You see yourself as superior.
Sir this is wrong.
Stop the propaganda.
I am muslim and I tell you I love Jesus more than you will ever, I represent Jesus than you will ever.
A muslim NEVER says wrong about Christ - The Messiah Jesus.
We too await the second coming,
In madinah prophet Muhamamd (SAW) has left a a clear message that he Jesus (AS) will return and be the sign of the hour in vivid description.
Where our beloved Muhammad (SAW) rests today a space has been allocated in Madinah on the say so of the prophet od Allah (SWT).
Leave it for my brother, mt friend who will come to restore the balance in the world. The Shepherd will bring his flock back to The One God.
Jesus (pbwh) will live for 40 years an age of peace and be buried in Madinah. He will follow the religion of Abraham, the religion of Islam.
A muslim does not enforce ISlam, he merely gives you invitation / dawah. It is your chioce to accept.
There is no compulsion in religion
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Assalam Alaikum
Walaikum Assalam
Or as Jesus (Pbwh) would say in Aramaic
Ashalom Aleykom
Waleykom Ashalom
yes it is hebrew too. :)
PEACE
Wow finally a Moslem with a bit of intelect, a misguided manipulative intelect at that.
I think that you are the one who believes himself to be superior: "I am muslim and I tell you I love Jesus more than you will ever, I represent Jesus than you will ever."
Sounds like a superior comment to me.
Do you accept that Jesus was God incarante as man, part of the trinity, that He died so that you could be forgiven of your sins, and be given the gift of eternal life?
He said, I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father but through me.
So Islam leads true believers and searchers of God away from the truth.
Your religion is a highjacking of the Judeo/Christian religion and is led by a false prophet who had sex with children.
Get out of that one.
p.s Who said he was a blue eyed blonde?
It is pretty obvious he was of Middle Easter Jewish appearance considering he came from the Holy Land.
So bit of a stupid comment there from yourself.
How old was prophet Jospeh's wife?
If you wish to go into polygamy?
How manay wives did soloman have,
How many wives did Abraham himself have?
Now if you declare Hagar a bondwoman?
then you are wrong to defame a prophet of God to have an "Illegitimate" relationship with an unmarried woman.
Which brings me to the point!!
Ismael "DID" have legitimacy ( not that it bothers me the Judaeo/Christian world wish to think otherwise ).
A muslim is the onw ho follows the religion of Abraham as passed onto his son"s".
Ismael and Issac.
From the Israelites we have Jacob (Israel) Joseph and so the line carries on.
The bible refers to the sons/princess of Kedar? with adornation.
Who was Kedar he was "A" son of Ishmael from who the Arabs came from.
Don't distance yourself from Islam and don't resort to profanities. Right or Wrong a "true" man of God a believer never resorts to profanities.
Also in answer to your "RIDICULOUS" insertion do I beleive Jesus to be God or the Son of God.
Well you no I vehermently would say no.
The Jesus (pbuh) of the Qu'ran is a more fitting story as opposed to the one that was transformed from the heretics of a Roman Empire.
The Jesus (pbuh) of the Qu'ran fits in with the "Israelite" view of the messiah.
The Israelites were waiting for a man a messenger and a prophet. They accepted him as a prophet and messenger as a man.
It was only in the 2nd century of Christianity that the current popular "version" of the beloved Messiah Jesus was transformed into the status of God / Son of God.
Anyway I am not here to give lessons not advocate to you how to believe.
The statement Islam "hijacked" the Judaeo-Christian religion has NEVER been substantiated.
Rather than empty statements based on preconceived ill founded accusations - do some research.
Islam comes from the "semitic route word for Peace. shalom or Salam.
Islam is the religion of The One God. Islam also means submitting with free will to follow The One God's Law as opposed to man's Law.
This is where you guys get it all wrong about ISlam because you see God's Law as being anti what you beleive.
God's Law has much to do with social justice, economic rights, protect the poor and needy, engage in spiritual knowledge and worldly knowledge, God's Law stands for Educating "ALL".
This was what was represented in the Islamic Era that existed up until a 100 years ago.
The Industrial revolution and European Imperialism left most of the world "divided" with non european countries with poor foundations to co-exist on equally footing politically, economically with the West.
Before you say so, No I am not bitter nor do I blame the West as I am European too.
This is the state of civilisations, great civilisations come and they go.
This is great teaching from the Qu'ran.
Qu'ran tells you to reflect on past civilisations, however grandeur they felt they were they came to an end. This is the fate of all men, so reflect on your own life and do good and resist the bad.
Qu'ran mentions the Pharoah, people beleived him to be God, so Allah (SWT) sent a calamity on him as he pursued the Israelites, He and His army PRESERVED in the depth of the sea as a solemn reminder to the rest of humanity.
Recent findings have confirmed this and the Pharoah and his army were indeed found in the sea.
So do not commit excesses muslim or non muslim, look at your own life and better it first before you preach elsewhere.
Before you mention it?
Allah is also a semitic word and is also the same in Aramaic the language of Christ Jesus (pbuh).
Aramaic for the One God is also Allah.
So do not see us as different, we beleive;
In the One ness of our creator who neither begts nor is begotten.
We beleive in Heaven.
We beleive in a Hell.
We beleive in the Angels.
We beleive in "ALL" the prophets and messengers sent to this world as a "warning" to mankind and as a blessing.
Piety is not a measure of power and wealth ( Remember the muslims too had power and wealth for 1400 years ).
Piety is to be humble, simple, respect all and everyone, follow what is good and forbid the bad.
Islam does NOT advocate the following;
Suicide
Subjugation of women
Racism
Gender inequality
Arrange Marriage
Drugs or selling for drugs
Unprovoked attacking of the innocent or even Your enemy.
Interest
Drinking alcohol
Dressing in a on modest way ( men and Women ).
Progression ( Islamic Era was among the MOST progressive era in the history of mankind - Remeber it was Arabs who revived the works of Greek Academics and Pilosphers as well as Persians and Chinese.
I will sincerely say this that Islam and the Islamic era of our past has received a great injustice.
If you are Xtian and you read the Qu'ran there is not much that is NOT similar.
The fundamental difference is we recognise prophet Jesus to be a man in the simlitude of Adam. Gid created Adam to be and he was, similarly God created Jesus (pbuh) in the womb of his humble mother.
The other difference is the devil, in Christianity the devil is an Angel?
In Islam, God is the Perfect creator and if the Angel has been created to believe and follow orders then the angel will do so until God say not to do so.
Devil is the Jinn, known in christianity and other cultures as ; spirits, demons, banshee, churail etc.
The Jinn come in 2 forms, those wo believe and those who do not.
Among those who do not is a race of Shaytan Jinn ( Satan Jinn).
They misuse their ability to be unseen and trickery to deceive the mankind.
Allah (SWT) has given them a pardon until judgement day as the leader of the Jinn Iblis has said he will mislead man.
Other than this their is no real difference in the religion.
Islam like Judaism is a religion of "PRACTICE".
I doubt this was helpful to you as you are already blinded by the hate as many in the muslim communities around the world.
Human suffering only changes through, clear decisive vision, clear understanding of all, through dialogue and not through violence.
Violence begets violence.
Take care.
In the greeting of the beleiver..
Asalam Alaikum
Ashalom Aleykojm (Jewish and Aramaic) - Remember this is ow the Israelite prophets greeted too.
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