1 Corinthians 3:7-9 So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase. Now he who plants and he who waters are one, and each one will receive his own reward according to his own labor. For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, you are God’s building.
A chilling film. A reminder of what we are up against. A reminder that we can never relax, or Islam's war-machine will engulf the Free World. Whatever the faults in our Democracies, we are infinitely better off than under the Islamic cult of deception and coercion. We had better start to take notice of the words of those ex-Muslims who have dared to leave that mental prison called Islam.
Please excuse me, LH, for posting this very long anonymous comment from elsewhere. Written by a commenter of Eastern location, it is a warning to all who believe the taqiuya, (the lies to deceive the Infidel) and to all those who think that our British and American politicians are speaking truthfully, when they tell us the big lie, that "Islam is a religion of peace." I would like to think that British politicians like Jaqui Smith were merely being "clever" to keep the truth under the carpet. Now I am convinced that they believe their own lies. with apologies for the length of this comment..
anonymous said,
""The British Muslims for Secular Democracy, a new organisation claiming to represent the "silent majority who feel no conflict between their faith and democracy reports the Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/02/islam.religion. Perfect Trojan Horse to lull the natives in britain for islamisation. Taqiyyah, Deceit is the hallmark and modus operandi of every practising muslim unless he has renounced Islam and is an apostate e.g. Ibn Warraq.
There is no democracy in Islam. Islam's ideology is Theocracy. There is no Divide between State and Religion. Islam is Political. There is no love in Islam. Ayatollah Khomeini said: "There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humour in Islam. There is no fun in Islam." Surely, former brain-damaged US president Carter's holy man couldn't be wrong?
The truth is muslim theocracy is in direct conflict with the freedoms enjoyed in much of the democratic and developed world. So why is Yasmin Alibhai-Brown the alter ego of that repulsive Robert Fisk lying?
According to Muslim scholar Bassam Tibi, "Muslims are religiously obliged to disseminate the Islamic faith throughout the world.... If non-Muslims submit to conversion or subjugation, this call can be pursued peacefully. If they do not, Muslims are obliged to wage war against them. … Those who resist Islam cause wars and are responsible for them" "We have sent you forth to all mankind" (Q. 34:28). If non-Muslims submit to conversion or subjugation, this call (da’wa) can be pursued peacefully. If they do not, Muslims are obliged to wage war against them. ">>Majid Khadduri of Johns Hopkins University wrote that jihad is "an instrument for both the universalization of (Islamic) religion and the establishment of an imperial world state."
Get it? Muslims are religiously obliged to disseminate the Islamic faith throughout the world..... isn't the muslim allah the greatest of deceivers? And don't muslims of whatever stripe adhere to his decree? There is no grey area in Islam. In Islam, peace requires that non-Muslims submit to the call of Islam, either by converting or by accepting the status of a dhimmi and paying the imposed poll tax, jizya. In this cult called islam world peace is reached only with the conversion or submission of all mankind to Islam . In other words, by simply existing, the entire non-Islamic world is always responsible for any and all Jihadic acts against them.
Moderate Islam? No such thing. Yes, there are many individual Muslims who are not terrorists, but the religion itself is a plan, a map, and instructions for world domination by a nasty group of thugs, killers and religious fanatics. Turkish pm Erdogan pointedly says: Islam is islam [along with its 100+ violent verses calling for the murder and subjugation of non-muslims, to turn the whole world into one Sharia dominated Dar ul Islam.] It is rubbish to say moderate.
As far as majority Muslim understanding and use of the Jihad term goes, nothing much has changed through the last 1400 years. The lesser Jihad cannot be separated out from the greater Jihad and ignored; it appears they are both a part of unalterable core Islam. Thus countries and societies not currently dominated by Islamic supremacy are by default the abode of war, where Jihad (and deception, sanctioned by the evil Quran) is always fully justified. Those who contend that jihad war is not a main tenet of traditional Islam do so deceitfully. IMO The British Muslims for Secular Democracy is a front for islamising Britain.
From "The Qur’anic Concept of War", by Pakistani Brigadier S.K. Malik, it says (in the preface):
"But in Islam war is waged to establish supremacy of the Lord only when every other argument has failed to convince those who reject His Will and work against the very purpose of the creation of mankind."
"Many Western Scholars have pointed their accusing fingers at some of the above verses in the Qur’an to be able to contend that world of Islam is in a state of perpetual struggle against the non-Muslims. As to them it is a sufficient answer to make... that the defiance of God's authority by one who is His slaves exposes that slave to the risk of being held guilty of treason and as such a one, in the perspective of Islamic law, is indeed to be treated as a sort of that cancerous growth on that organism of humanity.... It thus becomes necessary to remove the cancerous malformation even if it be by surgical means, in order to save the rest of humanity."
This full-of-satanic evil mass murderer is stating that non muslims are the cancerous malformation that need and must be murdered.
. A question-and-answer session with Imam Abdul Makin in an East London mosque asks why Allah would tell Muslims to kill and rape innocent non-Muslims, including their wives and daughters, according to Islam Watch. "Because non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet," the Imam says, according to the report. "If you don't believe me, here is the legal authority, the top Muslim lawyer of Britain." The lawyer, Anjem Choudary, backs up the Imam's position, saying that all Muslims are innocent. "You are innocent if you are a Muslim," Choudary tells the BBC. "Then you are innocent in the eyes of God. If you are not a Muslim, then you are guilty of not believing in God." Choudary said he would not condemn a Muslim for any action. "As a Muslim, I must support my Muslim brothers and sisters," Choudary said. "I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim." Keyword: HATRED. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344409,00.html NOTE: Anjem Choudary lives on welfare and whose wife and children rake in $3200/month in welfare.
!......."If the Muslims are unable to convince their people (e.g. through peaceful da’wah) to embrace Islam and implement the Sharee’ah, it then becomes an obligation upon them to make hijrah and unite (build their own community and execute the Sharee’ah over themselves) and then rise again st the government by force at a later date, regardless of whether they are the majority or the minority.... "If the people do not embrace Islam and implement the Sharee’ah on their own accord, it becomes an obligation upon the Muslims to fight and implement Islam. "http://tinyurl.com/2jfko7 LEARN FROM HISTORY. The German conquest of Sweden during WWII deserves special attention. Tens of thousands of German soldiers "immigrated" to Sweden disguised as tourists, students or workers. When the hour of invasion arrived, they took up arms and participated in the overthrow of the government. Translate the above to islamic immigration and the appeasement of host countries to accommodate muslims demands. When the State loses the Moral Autority to combat potential terror groups it loses it across the board.
A muslim fanatic is funding terrorists killing British troops in Afghanistan while sponging off state benefits, the News of the World revealed. Gloating extremist Mohd. NAWAZ RAJA runs a network of door-to-door money-raisers collecting thousands for his fake ‘charity'.Nawaz owns a five-bedroom £350,00 house, is himself being funded by Brit taxpayers.He pockets £250-a-week in handouts — and boasts: "I'm a British national. The government pays me to live" And pray tell what has Yasmin and her cohorts done about it?
Muslims employ various methods to attack/seduce non-muslims. Through "peaceful" means like calling themselves "moderate" in actuality they hold your feet while the fundamentalist slices your throat ear to ear, then pass out candies in celebration. Through dialogue that hampers the non-muslim, thanks to the brain-washing of the dhimmified Establishment with their mantra of "islam is a religion of peace" and intimidation on non-muslims. So islam can never ever be scrutinised. What can not be scrutinised is Suspect! Period.
Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, “spiritual” leader of the Muslim Brotherhood and popular Al-Jazeera television personality, hailed as a moderate voice by some, red carpet treatment by now ousted Ken Livingstone (there's a story floating he's making it to South America - why? No islamic paradise for this voice of islamic terrorists?) "It has been determined by Islamic law that the blood and property of people of Dar Al-Harb [the Domain of Disbelief where the battle for the domination of Islam should be waged] is not protected…in modern war, all of society, with all its classes and ethnic groups, is mobilized to participate in the war, to aid its continuation, and to provide it with the material and human fuel required for it to assure the victory of the state fighting its enemies.”
Baroness Kishwer Faulkner queries: This differential accommodation leads to us being pushed to the edges. How is it that the Sikhs and Hindus can live in democracy but not Muslims. The good Baroness definitely has not read islamic history nor excerpts of the quran. No Muslim will declare that all religions are equal. And because Islam teaches that allah's men are the best of men, they demand so because the whole world of non-muslims owe them a living. And dullards like the Baroness is in askance!
Dear Baroness, MUSLIMS CONTRIBUTED NOTHING TO CIVILISATION. That's the truth. All the followers of the sex maniac Mohd. were vicious evil men who resorted to violence to achieve their goals. The caliph UUMAR, when he conquered Egypt in 640 AD was asked by his general who captured the city of Alexandria what should be done to the Royal Library of Alexandria, founded in the 3rd Century BC during the reign of Ptolemy II of Egypt. The Library, once the largest in the world, stored at its peak more than 700,000 scrolls of the world's knowledge. For muslim LIARS to claim they gave knowledge to the world they should read what their evil, illiterte Umar said of the Library's holdings: "..they will either contradict the quran in which case they are heresy, or they will agree with it which is superfluous." To be on the safe side he ordered the library to be destroyed and the books burnt.****The same was done to an even bigger Library, the Nalanda University in India by illiterate sex maniac muslims who burnt and destroyed priceless books, parchments, scrolls. *****It was Harun ar Rashid and his son Mamun who being celebrated scholars themselves were the greatest patrons of learning. Both father and son began to tap invaluable source of the works of Indian mathematics, philosophy, the works of Greek scientists stored in the libraries i Constantinople and other centers of the Byzantine Empire....They translated everything they could from Greek to Arabic.....About 830 Muhd. ibn Musa al-Khwarazmi, went to India, studied Sanskrit and translated mathematical and astronomical books from the Sanskrit to Arabic. He published a book which was translated into Latin in the 12th century under the title ALGORITMI DE NUMERO INDORUM. It was from this book that the West first learnt of what the "arabic" numerals which is INDIAN. The zero was invented by Hindu Brahmin Aryabhatta. PYTHOGORAS went to India and studied Philosophy from Kapila, the world's first philosopher.
To even allude that muslims contributed anything is to perpetuate LIES. Muslims then and today contribute nothing!!! The Fraud and Furious adherents of the cult of Perpetual Outrage left their brains with Al-Ghazali in 1100. Since then dreams are stifled in every Islamic nation. They have poor innovation records, and have to rely on foreign talent. They even have to depend on a foreign maid to wipe their ass. It is a FACT that muslims export SUICIDE TERRORISTS, GRIEVANCE MONGERING TACTICS, CHILD ABUSE/HONOR KILLING, GLOBAL FASCISM .Muslims are hell bent on murdering non muslims, that's their contribution. Those of Edward Said ilk have been found to be liars, and more often than not, found to have received enormous amounts of lolly to write LIES. There will be more disinformation/misinformation/sanitising of islam and muslims in the coming days by pussified writers when world recession hits them hard.
The scriptures of both Hinduism (british term) and Sikhism that rose to combat islam teach them truth, justice, work ethics, morals, human rights, etc. That is why Britain has an Indian Hindu Lakshmi Mittal as the richest man. If it were not for the Chinese, Indians of hindu and sikh streams, Britain would be in much more dire straits.
Beware the muslim at every turn. He's a human bomb. Believe it. Education does not seem to make any impact on them. The last attack on Britain were by Doctors of Medicine.""
There is the real truth, from an Infidel of the East, who will not believe the bull**** that is fed to us daily via the BBC and other dumbed-down news sources. Why are we so unable to grasp the truth? When you take hold of a nettle, you get stung, but then the healing process begins. We must face the truth and then prepare for the worst that will come to this green Island of ours. We are all Lions at Heart.
So what? Judaism is another liars religion. One you hypocritically adore. Also a religion of "snuff films" gore porn, the drug trade, the weapons trade, filthy hollywood movies, scat... So you putting that Star of SATAN next to the cross is hardly Christian.
Jews have no place whatsoever in God's covenant except to accept Jesus Christ, not at the apocalypse, but NOW, right NOW. And even after that they still will not be trusted; for duplicity is their blood.
The Jews of today actually belong to a Jewish religion that denies Jesus Christ is the Messiah that died for their sins. Many people of the tribe of Judah, who were referred to as 'Jews' in the New Testament are Christians in today's world; some also belong to the Jewish religion of today.
The Jews in the New Testament stated the following when Pilate handed Jesus over for crucifixtion:
"Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children." Matthew 27:25
These words have been so true for a people over the ages that have denied Christ to be the Son of God. It should be evident to people of the Jewish religion today, that the time has passed for Christ to have been born as latter prophecies have been and are being fulfilled.
It is a shame that many people do not know who true Israel is today, and it is not those who have named a country Israel in 1948.
Actually the Star of David and the Cross of Jesus next to one another is very fitting, even if the ignorant do not know why.
I do not have any malice towards those who accept God, but deny Christ because those of Judah are my brethren and the others are Gentiles - peoples of other nations - and both are granted forgiveness who seek it by God.
NeoconsAreCommies is what is wrong with the West. They won't condemn their Muslim masters and condemn Jews and Israel instead.
Islam only destroys. It has never invented a single thing to benefit humanity. Your Christianity Neocons is a direct offshoot of Judaism. Think about that. And that was only 1 thing they have invented. I hope you don't ever need a blood transfusion, the person who discovered the different blood groups was a Jew. And do you get your children vaccinated for Polio? Again a Jew. I could be on this all day and still not list all the advances to the West that Judaism gave it. And many were done at a time when the West was persecuting them.
It is good to see you back Lionheart. I missed you.
it is a shame that many people do not know what true christian belief is about- that Jesus is the Christ the Son of the living God.
As Christ Himself said : no-one comes to the Father except through me.
it is not therefore fitting for the star of David and the cross to be quoted as you say in your context to be 'next to one another' - yet the arrogant will remain so while putting forth their ignorant meanderings.
it is only fitting for star and cross to ' be next to one another ' in the fight against islam. In fact judaism from the tribe of judah as a semitic people and religion has more in common with the arab(they also being semitic peoples) race and religion(islam) than christianity.
It can be seen as a sibling fight between semitic brothers whereas christianity is an entirely different entity and approach to both God, Life and spirituality.
and to findalis:
neocon may not condemn muslims i have not seen whether he/she has or hasn't but in this specific post of his/hers. he/she talked about judaism specifically, which does not mean they don't condemn islam- it simply means they didn't mention islam in their comment.
Everyone and their dog criticises christianity yet criticism of judaism seems to have a reaction similar to the way muslims react to criticism of islam it is met with sarcastic sneer and jeering derision. is this another example of how they are similar, is it because they are both semitic?
if christianity is open to criticism and i as a christian aint afraid of it- i have the choice to defend it by word.
then other religions must be open to criticism and if they are worthy then they will be able to be defended. scientific knowledge is not a defence of judaism- would you use those arguments of what or was not invented in the day before they were invented. Ridiculing the commentor until you are sure he/she is an islamic sympathizer is not defending judaism- talking about the righteous qualities of judaism that counter neocons opinion is defending judaism, until you do that you have done nothing to counter his argument.
Christianity is not an offshoot of Judaism -
christianity is a calling from God for us to make our way back to him, it is not an offshoot no more than America is an offshoot of Britain. Just as America was not an evolution but a revolution and new concept. Christianity is not an evolution of judaism but a revolution of the relationship between God and man.
Celtic Crusader, I criticize Judaism and welcome such criticisms. That is how the religion grows. I criticize the fact that under the religion a woman cannot get a divorce (but there is a growing movement to change that). I criticize the growing Haradi movement and the push of the government of Israel to give into Haradi demands. I am a very vocal criticizer of my faith in the hope and desire to change it, to bring it into the 21st century.
And I welcome discussion on Judaism. It's an open dialog that helps a religion to grow.
But your comment that Christianity is not an offshoot of Judaism is wrong. The earliest Church was a Jewish one. They followed all the laws of Moses and believed that Jesus was the Messiah. They considered themselves Jews. If you study the early Church, you learn this.
Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah because he didn't fulfill all the components of the prophecies.
There were better candidates for the position at the time: Bar-Kochba for one. Akiva for another. They fulfilled many of the prophecies but didn't rebuild the temple.
Under Judaism, until the Temple is re-built the Messiah cannot come to Earth.
He said - 'I will destroy this temple and in three days I shall raise it up'
because the Jews were not in tune or speaking his language spiritually, they did not interpret correctly what he was talking about.
He was talking about his resurrection and ascension into heaven. He was referring how he would let himself be taken, judged and crucified and not try to get out of it by act or word. He was therefore talking of how his wordly temple, his body....the temple of our souls - and he being God incarnate was therefore the central focal temple of mankind in God the Father through the Son...Christ. He was saying therefore it would be destroyed...lost to this world and in three days he would raise it up. So in three days he would be resurrected and ascend into Heaven.
Christ is risen - he has rebuilt the temple.
People thought at the time that the Messiah may be a leader to lead the Jews out of despotism and tyranny of the Romans- a leader of leaders, fighting the oppressors and giving spiritual guidance, but this is a dangerous concept. It is a wholly materialistic, wordly concept, that our final everlasting covenant with God the Father would be fulfilled through the age-old facet of strife.It is dangerous because it is more beguiling - it comes with the respectability and profoundness of spirituality and a spiritual leader - therefore such a modus operandi is seemingly God-ordained, force through faith and before long faith through force. God had seen all that before in our infancy relationship with Him.
This time the sin of Adam and man was to be atoned for by God becoming man and undergoing the trials and temptations that we ourselves face - to feel the joys and pains of man and to either indulge and lose himself to them or reject them under the power or powerlessness of a man. Christ could have easily become the charismatic leader of a rebel movement - but that would have then been a wordly calling. And where have we seen the charismatic fightin, sabre-rattlin' prophet before...muslims know all about this kind of prophet. This kind of role by the nature of accepting it and taking on its mantle ...by the very nature of accepting that role means you are now in the worldly sphere, you have to communicate and react in a more wordly way, and as time goes on this worldliness increases. You need power, you become attuned to the ways of power, striving for power becomes a concern, you become powerful and as a man preoccupied with your worldly struggle and for freedom you dont notice the personal change the loss of self-awareness and self-stillness that allow one to see the spiritual needs of others around you and your own spiritual need -time for God the Father decreases. It is true - power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Show me the powerful man who does not have problems in his personal life. All such problems stemming from an atrophied spirit and if not then he has spiritual problems or lack of spirit altogether. You may say, ahh but, we all have little problems in our personal lives and as long as he/she is doing the job we elected them for then thats all that we're interested in. That may be so here on earth but God is not interested in your job. He is interested in your soul and what you do in your personal life is all part of what your soul is made of. I am very much interested in what my leaders do in their personal lives, they are not robots -if the guy is a liar and a cheat to his wife - will you trust the guy ...i won't. What they do in their personal lives tells me the kind of guy who is making decisions on my behalf and affecting me, somewhere along the line he will betray me too- we elect the leaders we deserve. We cannot compartmentalise the man from his work anymore - this is part of the problem with western society. In Mohammed, Arabs got just such a charismatic, lying, war-monger, a power hungry ego-maniac and so-called liberating freedom-fighter. (also a compartmentaliser - thats how he could rationalise things to himself and then to his followers.)
Mohammed inflicted himself upon the rest of the world. The rest of the world inflicted itself upon Christ.
So Christ was consistant with his way of operating and the message he constantly maintained they were spirit focused - while he was in this world his whole focus was always on the spirit-world and struggling to save his spirit and fighting to save all of ours.
People were chomping at the bit just waiting for him to say 'I do' for their cause. It must have been a lure...the notoriety, the glory etc. It takes humility and sacrifice to deny temptation and to stay focused on the mission.
Instead Christ chose the harder less popular, less understood route - no cheering crowds for this one. That was to not just free the jews from oppression but to free mankind from the slavery of sin and death, he lit the path back to God the Father that was always there but had been obscured by darkness of sin and the second death, the death of the soul.
He declined to become leader of a popular uprising to set a nation free but fixed his gaze on the only mission- to set mankind free.
So christianity is not an offshoot of judaism - it is not a seed of an older plant, not a branch of the tree. It is wholly new, nothing from judaism is needed in christianity to reach God the Father. And that is what we are talking about here...the spirit and it finding its way to the light, because this is most important. Christianity is its own seed dropping from the heavens and capable of germinating in the hearts of all or being rejected by all - jew and gentile alike. Judaism serves as a historical backdrop and setting and while you may say that Jesus lineage is from David - this is to fulfill prophecy...his body is of that lineage - his spirit is that of the kingdom of heaven, and as he is the Christ the son of the living God his spirit is of the lineage of God - His is the Holy Spirit. That is why it is not an offshoot of anything - it is wholly from God. Its inception and end is with and in God. It has no earthly lineage. Judaism is the setting for this new covenant between God and all of mankind to occur. It is a new covenant, original in its creation, making and intent. It is not an evolution of judaism or a branching off or an offshoot - it is wholly original, if you think in wordly terms you will not understand, if you think and speak in the spirit-world -the world of your soul then you will see.
christ speaking to some Jews said 'before Abraham was, I am'.
Jesus is not a banner for any social group, whether known as Jewish or catholic or protestant. He came as king of kingdom of truth. Those who seek and live in truth are his. In this language -the only language and cognisance that is important, that matters and is of consequence...that of the Kingdom of God - Belief that Jesus was the Messiah, the Christ - the Son of the living God....or Christianity - is not an offshoot of anything.
If God is the alpha and omega and his Son Christ is God made man and also exists as alpha and omega - then the path to God through Jesus Christ as prophecy fulfilled in the books of Daniel and Isaiah is a path that had been destined since the beginning of time - it is not an evolution or offshoot but the fullfillment of a revolution in the way God relates to His creation....us. It is a revolution and precisely a wholly new way of us relating to our maker and finding eternal freedom, truth and life in Him. It always was....it IS. As such it has no beginning - nothing to offshoot from. Christ always was and IS, our only path to God the Father. That path always was....it IS.
Christ declined an insurrection to liberate a few
Christ chose a resurrection to liberate the whole.
Acts 7:42-43: Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
Amos 5:26-27 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.
This site has a very interesting take on the Star of David, which in reality is not the Star of David at all.
I really haven't done any research on the Star of David until now, naively thinking that the Star had something to do with the Star that shone above the manager in which Christ was born and with David's lineage to Christ.
Nevertheless, the country Israel and those who inhabit her should be allowed to live in peace, of which she is not.
sheesh, what adiscourse on religion. Don't let religion affiliations of any kind blind us, or separate us from each other. We are of the vanguard of awakened humans, who see the threat to all of history and all of our futures. It rises as the crescent moon in the east. It spells out the enslavement of Humanity for Centuries to come. Others will awaken, when the shocks are given to them, when Islam cannot be disguised as a religion of peace any more. No group of people, no "religion", no government, has the right to inflict such gross changes on the masses. These false ideas are always overturned,but the process involves much pain and blood letting. It was goodbye to Hitlerism, then goodbye to Marxism, one day it will be goodbye to Nu Labourism, and multi-cultism, and one day as well it will be good by to Mohammedism. Better to defeat your enemies at the first battle charge, than allow them to gain streenght while the Generals faff about. Nevertheless, we shall prevail.
A chilling film. A reminder of what we are up against. A reminder that we can never relax, or Islam's war-machine will engulf the Free World.
ReplyDeleteWhatever the faults in our Democracies, we are infinitely better off than under the Islamic cult of deception and coercion.
We had better start to take notice of the words of those ex-Muslims who have dared to leave that mental prison called Islam.
Please excuse me, LH, for posting this very long anonymous comment from elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteWritten by a commenter of Eastern location, it is a warning to all who believe the taqiuya, (the lies to deceive the Infidel) and to all those who think that our British and American politicians are speaking truthfully, when they tell us the big lie, that "Islam is a religion of peace."
I would like to think that British politicians like Jaqui Smith were merely being "clever" to keep the truth under the carpet. Now I am convinced that they believe their own lies.
with apologies for the length of this comment..
anonymous said,
""The British Muslims for Secular Democracy, a new organisation claiming to represent the "silent majority who feel no conflict between their faith and democracy reports the Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/02/islam.religion. Perfect Trojan Horse to lull the natives in britain for islamisation.
Taqiyyah, Deceit is the hallmark and modus operandi of every practising muslim unless he has renounced Islam and is an apostate e.g. Ibn Warraq.
There is no democracy in Islam. Islam's ideology is Theocracy. There is no Divide between State and Religion. Islam is Political. There is no love in Islam.
Ayatollah Khomeini said: "There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humour in Islam. There is no fun in Islam." Surely, former brain-damaged US president Carter's holy man couldn't be wrong?
The truth is muslim theocracy is in direct conflict with the freedoms enjoyed in much of the democratic and developed world. So why is Yasmin Alibhai-Brown
the alter ego of that repulsive Robert Fisk lying?
According to Muslim scholar Bassam Tibi, "Muslims are religiously obliged to disseminate the Islamic faith throughout the world.... If non-Muslims submit to conversion or subjugation, this call can be pursued peacefully. If they do not, Muslims are obliged to wage war against them. … Those who resist Islam cause wars and are responsible for them" "We have sent you forth to all mankind" (Q. 34:28). If non-Muslims submit to conversion or subjugation, this call (da’wa) can be pursued peacefully. If they do not, Muslims are obliged to wage war against them. ">>Majid Khadduri of Johns Hopkins University wrote that jihad is "an instrument for both the universalization of (Islamic) religion and the establishment of an imperial world state."
Get it? Muslims are religiously obliged to disseminate the Islamic faith throughout the world..... isn't the muslim allah the greatest of deceivers? And don't muslims of whatever stripe adhere to his decree? There is no grey area in Islam.
In Islam, peace requires that non-Muslims submit to the call of Islam, either by converting or by accepting the status of a dhimmi and paying the imposed poll tax, jizya. In this cult called islam world peace is reached only with the conversion or submission of all mankind to Islam . In other words, by simply existing, the entire non-Islamic world is always responsible for any and all Jihadic acts against them.
Moderate Islam? No such thing. Yes, there are many individual Muslims who are not terrorists, but the religion itself is a plan, a map, and instructions for world domination by a nasty group of thugs, killers and religious fanatics. Turkish pm Erdogan pointedly says: Islam is islam [along with its 100+ violent verses calling for the murder and subjugation of non-muslims, to turn the whole world into one Sharia dominated Dar ul Islam.] It is rubbish to say moderate.
As far as majority Muslim understanding and use of the Jihad term goes, nothing much has changed through the last 1400 years. The lesser Jihad cannot be separated out from the greater Jihad and ignored; it appears they are both a part of unalterable core Islam. Thus countries and societies not currently dominated by Islamic supremacy are by default the abode of war, where Jihad (and deception, sanctioned by the evil Quran) is always fully justified. Those who contend that jihad war is not a main tenet of traditional Islam do so deceitfully. IMO The British Muslims for Secular Democracy is a front for islamising Britain.
From "The Qur’anic Concept of War", by Pakistani Brigadier S.K. Malik, it says (in the preface):
"But in Islam war is waged to establish supremacy of the Lord only when every other argument has failed to convince those who reject His Will and work against the very purpose of the creation of mankind."
"Many Western Scholars have pointed their accusing fingers at some of the above verses in the Qur’an to be able to contend that world of Islam is in a state of perpetual struggle against the non-Muslims. As to them it is a sufficient answer to make... that the defiance of God's authority by one who is His slaves exposes that slave to the risk of being held guilty of treason and as such a one, in the perspective of Islamic law, is indeed to be treated as a sort of that cancerous growth on that organism of humanity.... It thus becomes necessary to remove the cancerous malformation even if it be by surgical means, in order to save the rest of humanity."
This full-of-satanic evil mass murderer is stating that non muslims are the cancerous malformation that need and must be murdered.
. A question-and-answer session with Imam Abdul Makin in an East London mosque asks why Allah would tell Muslims to kill and rape innocent non-Muslims, including their wives and daughters, according to Islam Watch. "Because non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet," the Imam says, according to the report. "If you don't believe me, here is the legal authority, the top Muslim lawyer of Britain." The lawyer, Anjem Choudary, backs up the Imam's position, saying that all Muslims are innocent. "You are innocent if you are a Muslim," Choudary tells the BBC. "Then you are innocent in the eyes of God. If you are not a Muslim, then you are guilty of not believing in God." Choudary said he would not condemn a Muslim for any action. "As a Muslim, I must support my Muslim brothers and sisters," Choudary said. "I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim." Keyword: HATRED. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344409,00.html NOTE: Anjem Choudary lives on welfare and whose wife and children rake in $3200/month in welfare.
!......."If the Muslims are unable to convince their people (e.g. through peaceful da’wah) to embrace Islam and implement the Sharee’ah, it then becomes an obligation upon them to make hijrah and unite (build their own community and execute the Sharee’ah over themselves) and then rise again st the government by force at a later date, regardless of whether they are the majority or the minority.... "If the people do not embrace Islam and implement the Sharee’ah on their own accord, it becomes an obligation upon the Muslims to fight and implement Islam. "http://tinyurl.com/2jfko7 LEARN FROM HISTORY. The German conquest of Sweden during WWII deserves special attention. Tens of thousands of German soldiers "immigrated" to Sweden disguised as tourists, students or workers. When the hour of invasion arrived, they took up arms and participated in the overthrow of the government. Translate the above to islamic immigration and the appeasement of host countries to accommodate muslims demands. When the State loses the Moral Autority to combat potential terror groups it loses it across the board.
A muslim fanatic is funding terrorists killing British troops in Afghanistan while sponging off state benefits, the News of the World revealed. Gloating extremist Mohd. NAWAZ RAJA runs a network of door-to-door money-raisers collecting thousands for his fake ‘charity'.Nawaz owns a five-bedroom £350,00 house, is himself being funded by Brit taxpayers.He pockets £250-a-week in handouts — and boasts: "I'm a British national. The government pays me to live" And pray tell what has Yasmin and her cohorts done about it?
Muslims employ various methods to attack/seduce non-muslims. Through "peaceful" means like calling themselves "moderate" in actuality they hold your feet while the fundamentalist slices your throat ear to ear, then pass out candies in celebration. Through dialogue that hampers the non-muslim, thanks to the brain-washing of the dhimmified Establishment with their mantra of "islam is a religion of peace" and intimidation on non-muslims. So islam can never ever be scrutinised. What can not be scrutinised is Suspect! Period.
Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, “spiritual” leader of the Muslim Brotherhood and popular Al-Jazeera television personality, hailed as a moderate voice by some, red carpet treatment by now ousted Ken Livingstone (there's a story floating he's making it to South America - why? No islamic paradise for this voice of islamic terrorists?)
"It has been determined by Islamic law that the blood and property of people of Dar Al-Harb [the Domain of Disbelief where the battle for the domination of Islam should be waged] is not protected…in modern war, all of society, with all its classes and ethnic groups, is mobilized to participate in the war, to aid its continuation, and to provide it with the material and human fuel required for it to assure the victory of the state fighting its enemies.”
Baroness Kishwer Faulkner queries: This differential accommodation leads to us being pushed to the edges. How is it that the Sikhs and Hindus can live in democracy but not Muslims.
The good Baroness definitely has not read islamic history nor excerpts of the quran. No Muslim will declare that all religions are equal. And because Islam teaches that allah's men are the best of men, they demand so because the whole world of non-muslims owe them a living. And dullards like the Baroness is in askance!
Dear Baroness, MUSLIMS CONTRIBUTED NOTHING TO CIVILISATION.
That's the truth. All the followers of the sex maniac Mohd. were vicious evil men who resorted to violence to achieve their goals. The caliph UUMAR, when he conquered Egypt in 640 AD was asked by his general who captured the city of Alexandria what should be done to the Royal Library of Alexandria, founded in the 3rd Century BC during the reign of Ptolemy II of Egypt. The Library, once the largest in the world, stored at its peak more than 700,000 scrolls of the world's knowledge. For muslim LIARS to claim they gave knowledge to the world they should read what their evil, illiterte Umar said of the Library's holdings: "..they will either contradict the quran in which case they are heresy, or they will agree with it which is superfluous." To be on the safe side he ordered the library to be destroyed and the books burnt.****The same was done to an even bigger Library, the Nalanda University in India by illiterate sex maniac muslims who burnt and destroyed priceless books, parchments, scrolls. *****It was Harun ar Rashid and his son Mamun who being celebrated scholars themselves were the greatest patrons of learning. Both father and son began to tap invaluable source of the works of Indian mathematics, philosophy, the works of Greek scientists stored in the libraries i Constantinople and other centers of the Byzantine Empire....They translated everything they could from Greek to Arabic.....About 830 Muhd. ibn Musa al-Khwarazmi, went to India, studied Sanskrit and translated mathematical and astronomical books from the Sanskrit to Arabic. He published a book which was translated into Latin in the 12th century under the title ALGORITMI DE NUMERO INDORUM. It was from this book that the West first learnt of what the "arabic" numerals which is INDIAN. The zero was invented by Hindu Brahmin Aryabhatta.
PYTHOGORAS went to India and studied Philosophy from Kapila, the world's first philosopher.
To even allude that muslims contributed anything is to perpetuate LIES. Muslims then and today contribute nothing!!! The Fraud and Furious adherents of the cult of Perpetual Outrage left their brains with Al-Ghazali in 1100. Since then dreams are stifled in every Islamic nation. They have poor innovation records, and have to rely on foreign talent. They even have to depend on a foreign maid to wipe their ass. It is a FACT that muslims export SUICIDE TERRORISTS, GRIEVANCE MONGERING TACTICS, CHILD ABUSE/HONOR KILLING, GLOBAL FASCISM .Muslims are hell bent on murdering non muslims, that's their contribution. Those of Edward Said ilk have been found to be liars, and more often than not, found to have received enormous amounts of lolly to write LIES. There will be more disinformation/misinformation/sanitising of islam and muslims in the coming days by pussified writers when world recession hits them hard.
The scriptures of both Hinduism (british term) and Sikhism that rose to combat islam teach them truth, justice, work ethics, morals, human rights, etc. That is why Britain has an Indian Hindu Lakshmi Mittal as the richest man. If it were not for the Chinese, Indians of hindu and sikh streams, Britain would be in much more dire straits.
Beware the muslim at every turn. He's a human bomb. Believe it. Education does not seem to make any impact on them. The last attack on Britain were by Doctors of Medicine.""
There is the real truth, from an Infidel of the East, who will not believe the bull**** that is fed to us daily via the BBC and other dumbed-down news sources.
Why are we so unable to grasp the truth? When you take hold of a nettle, you get stung, but then the healing process begins.
We must face the truth and then prepare for the worst that will come to this green Island of ours.
We are all Lions at Heart.
So what? Judaism is another liars religion. One you hypocritically adore.
ReplyDeleteAlso a religion of "snuff films" gore porn, the drug trade, the weapons trade, filthy hollywood movies, scat...
So you putting that Star of SATAN next to the cross is hardly Christian.
Jews have no place whatsoever in God's covenant except to accept Jesus Christ, not at the apocalypse, but NOW, right NOW. And even after that they still will not be trusted; for duplicity is their blood.
neoconsarecommies -
ReplyDeleteThe Jews of today actually belong to a Jewish religion that denies Jesus Christ is the Messiah that died for their sins. Many people of the tribe of Judah, who were referred to as 'Jews' in the New Testament are Christians in today's world; some also belong to the Jewish religion of today.
The Jews in the New Testament stated the following when Pilate handed Jesus over for crucifixtion:
"Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children." Matthew 27:25
These words have been so true for a people over the ages that have denied Christ to be the Son of God. It should be evident to people of the Jewish religion today, that the time has passed for Christ to have been born as latter prophecies have been and are being fulfilled.
It is a shame that many people do not know who true Israel is today, and it is not those who have named a country Israel in 1948.
Actually the Star of David and the Cross of Jesus next to one another is very fitting, even if the ignorant do not know why.
I do not have any malice towards those who accept God, but deny Christ because those of Judah are my brethren and the others are Gentiles - peoples of other nations - and both are granted forgiveness who seek it by God.
NeoconsAreCommies is what is wrong with the West. They won't condemn their Muslim masters and condemn Jews and Israel instead.
ReplyDeleteIslam only destroys. It has never invented a single thing to benefit humanity. Your Christianity Neocons is a direct offshoot of Judaism. Think about that. And that was only 1 thing they have invented. I hope you don't ever need a blood transfusion, the person who discovered the different blood groups was a Jew. And do you get your children vaccinated for Polio? Again a Jew. I could be on this all day and still not list all the advances to the West that Judaism gave it. And many were done at a time when the West was persecuting them.
It is good to see you back Lionheart. I missed you.
to joanne
ReplyDeleteit is a shame that many people do not know what true christian belief is about- that Jesus is the Christ the Son of the living God.
As Christ Himself said : no-one comes to the Father except through me.
it is not therefore fitting for the star of David and the cross to be quoted as you say in your context to be 'next to one another' - yet the arrogant will remain so while putting forth their ignorant meanderings.
it is only fitting for star and cross to ' be next to one another ' in the fight against islam. In fact judaism from the tribe of judah as a semitic people and religion has more in common with the arab(they also being semitic peoples) race and religion(islam) than christianity.
It can be seen as a sibling fight between semitic brothers whereas christianity is an entirely different entity and approach to both God, Life and spirituality.
and to findalis:
neocon may not condemn muslims i have not seen whether he/she has or hasn't but in this specific post of his/hers. he/she talked about judaism specifically, which does not mean they don't condemn islam- it simply means they didn't mention islam in their comment.
Everyone and their dog criticises
christianity yet criticism of judaism seems to have a reaction similar to the way muslims react to criticism of islam it is met with sarcastic sneer and jeering derision. is this another example of how they are similar, is it because they are both semitic?
if christianity is open to criticism and i as a christian aint afraid of it- i have the choice to defend it by word.
then other religions must be open to criticism and if they are worthy then they will be able to be defended. scientific knowledge is not a defence of judaism- would you use those arguments of what or was not invented in the day before they were invented. Ridiculing the commentor until you are sure he/she is an islamic sympathizer is not defending judaism- talking about the righteous qualities of judaism that counter neocons opinion is defending judaism, until you do that you have done nothing to counter his argument.
Christianity is not an offshoot of Judaism -
christianity is a calling from God for us to make our way back to him, it is not an offshoot no more than America is an offshoot of Britain. Just as America was not an evolution but a revolution and new concept. Christianity is not an evolution of judaism but a revolution of the relationship between God and man.
celtcrusader
Celtic Crusader, I criticize Judaism and welcome such criticisms. That is how the religion grows. I criticize the fact that under the religion a woman cannot get a divorce (but there is a growing movement to change that). I criticize the growing Haradi movement and the push of the government of Israel to give into Haradi demands.
ReplyDeleteI am a very vocal criticizer of my faith in the hope and desire to change it, to bring it into the 21st century.
And I welcome discussion on Judaism. It's an open dialog that helps a religion to grow.
But your comment that Christianity is not an offshoot of Judaism is wrong. The earliest Church was a Jewish one. They followed all the laws of Moses and believed that Jesus was the Messiah. They considered themselves Jews. If you study the early Church, you learn this.
Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah because he didn't fulfill all the components of the prophecies.
There were better candidates for the position at the time: Bar-Kochba for one. Akiva for another. They fulfilled many of the prophecies but didn't rebuild the temple.
Under Judaism, until the Temple is re-built the Messiah cannot come to Earth.
The chilling part is that the West seems bent on suicide. With few exceptions, we have elected dhimmis.
ReplyDeleteI am glad that the brave women depicted in the video are exposing this Satanic doctrine, but I am ashamed there are few men telling the truth.
We need a Churchill and we need him, or her, now.
Jesus Christ being God made man - was the temple.
ReplyDeleteHe said - 'I will destroy this temple and in three days I shall raise it up'
because the Jews were not in tune or speaking his language spiritually, they did not interpret correctly what he was talking about.
He was talking about his resurrection and ascension into heaven. He was referring how he would let himself be taken, judged and crucified and not try to get out of it by act or word. He was therefore talking of how his wordly temple, his body....the temple of our souls - and he being God incarnate was therefore the central focal temple of mankind in God the Father through the Son...Christ. He was saying therefore it would be destroyed...lost to this world and in three days he would raise it up. So in three days he would be resurrected and ascend into Heaven.
Christ is risen - he has rebuilt the temple.
People thought at the time that the Messiah may be a leader to lead the Jews out of despotism and tyranny of the Romans- a leader of leaders, fighting the oppressors and giving spiritual guidance, but this is a dangerous concept. It is a wholly materialistic, wordly concept, that our final everlasting covenant with God the Father would be fulfilled through the age-old facet of strife.It is dangerous because it is more beguiling - it comes with the respectability and profoundness of spirituality and a spiritual leader - therefore such a modus operandi is seemingly God-ordained, force through faith and before long faith through force. God had seen all that before in our infancy relationship with Him.
This time the sin of Adam and man was to be atoned for by God becoming man and undergoing the trials and temptations that we ourselves face - to feel the joys and pains of man and to either indulge and lose himself to them or reject them under the power or powerlessness of a man. Christ could have easily become the charismatic leader of a rebel movement - but that would have then been a wordly calling. And where have we seen the charismatic fightin, sabre-rattlin' prophet before...muslims know all about this kind of prophet. This kind of role by the nature of accepting it and taking on its mantle ...by the very nature of accepting that role means you are now in the worldly sphere, you have to communicate and react in a more wordly way, and as time goes on this worldliness increases. You need power, you become attuned to the ways of power, striving for power becomes a concern, you become powerful and as a man preoccupied with your worldly struggle and for freedom you dont notice the personal change the loss of self-awareness and self-stillness that allow one to see the spiritual needs of others around you and your own spiritual need -time for God the Father decreases. It is true - power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Show me the powerful man who does not have problems in his personal life. All such problems stemming from an atrophied spirit and if not then he has spiritual problems or lack of spirit altogether. You may say, ahh but, we all have little problems in our personal lives and as long as he/she is doing the job we elected them for then thats all that we're interested in. That may be so here on earth but God is not interested in your job. He is interested in your soul and what you do in your personal life is all part of what your soul is made of. I am very much interested in what my leaders do in their personal lives, they are not robots -if the guy is a liar and a cheat to his wife - will you trust the guy ...i won't. What they do in their personal lives tells me the kind of guy who is making decisions on my behalf and affecting me, somewhere along the line he will betray me too- we elect the leaders we deserve. We cannot compartmentalise the man from his work anymore - this is part of the problem with western society. In Mohammed, Arabs got just such a charismatic, lying, war-monger, a power hungry ego-maniac and so-called liberating freedom-fighter. (also a compartmentaliser - thats how he could rationalise things to himself and then to his followers.)
Mohammed inflicted himself upon the rest of the world.
The rest of the world inflicted itself upon Christ.
So Christ was consistant with his way of operating and the message he constantly maintained they were spirit focused - while he was in this world his whole focus was always on the spirit-world and struggling to save his spirit and fighting to save all of ours.
People were chomping at the bit just waiting for him to say 'I do' for their cause. It must have been a lure...the notoriety, the glory etc. It takes humility and sacrifice to deny temptation and to stay focused on the mission.
Instead Christ chose the harder less popular, less understood route - no cheering crowds for this one. That was to not just free the jews from oppression but to free mankind from the slavery of sin and death, he lit the path back to God the Father that was always there but had been obscured by darkness of sin and the second death, the death of the soul.
He declined to become leader of a popular uprising to set a nation free but fixed his gaze on the only mission- to set mankind free.
So christianity is not an offshoot of judaism - it is not a seed of an older plant, not a branch of the tree. It is wholly new, nothing from judaism is needed in christianity to reach God the Father. And that is what we are talking about here...the spirit and it finding its way to the light, because this is most important. Christianity is its own seed dropping from the heavens and capable of germinating in the hearts of all or being rejected by all - jew and gentile alike. Judaism serves as a historical backdrop and setting and while you may say that Jesus lineage is from David - this is to fulfill prophecy...his body is of that lineage - his spirit is that of the kingdom of heaven, and as he is the Christ the son of the living God his spirit is of the lineage of God - His is the Holy Spirit. That is why it is not an offshoot of anything - it is wholly from God. Its inception and end is with and in God. It has no earthly lineage. Judaism is the setting for this new covenant between God and all of mankind to occur. It is a new covenant, original in its creation, making and intent. It is not an evolution of judaism or a branching off or an offshoot - it is wholly original, if you think in wordly terms you will not understand, if you think and speak in the spirit-world -the world of your soul then you will see.
christ speaking to some Jews said 'before Abraham was, I am'.
Jesus is not a banner for any social group, whether known as Jewish or catholic or protestant. He came as king of kingdom of truth. Those who seek and live in truth are his. In this language -the only language and cognisance that is important, that matters and is of consequence...that of the Kingdom of God - Belief that Jesus was the Messiah, the Christ - the Son of the living God....or Christianity - is not an offshoot of anything.
If God is the alpha and omega and his Son Christ is God made man and also exists as alpha and omega - then the path to God through Jesus Christ as prophecy fulfilled in the books of Daniel and Isaiah is a path that had been destined since the beginning of time - it is not an evolution or offshoot but the fullfillment of a revolution in the way God relates to His creation....us. It is a revolution and precisely a wholly new way of us relating to our maker and finding eternal freedom, truth and life in Him. It always was....it IS. As such it has no beginning - nothing to offshoot from. Christ always was and IS, our only path to God the Father. That path always was....it IS.
Christ declined an insurrection to liberate a few
Christ chose a resurrection to liberate the whole.
celtcrusader.
http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/starof.htm
ReplyDeleteActs 7:42-43: Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
Amos 5:26-27 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.
This site has a very interesting take on the Star of David, which in reality is not the Star of David at all.
I really haven't done any research on the Star of David until now, naively thinking that the Star had something to do with the Star that shone above the manager in which Christ was born and with David's lineage to Christ.
Nevertheless, the country Israel and those who inhabit her should be allowed to live in peace, of which she is not.
to follow on a typing error in my last comment
ReplyDeletemeant 'worldly'
rather than 'wordly'
celtcrusader
sheesh, what adiscourse on religion.
ReplyDeleteDon't let religion affiliations of any kind blind us, or separate us from each other.
We are of the vanguard of awakened humans, who see the threat to all of history and all of our futures.
It rises as the crescent moon in the east.
It spells out the enslavement of Humanity for Centuries to come.
Others will awaken, when the shocks are given to them, when Islam cannot be disguised as a religion of peace any more.
No group of people, no "religion", no government, has the right to inflict such gross changes on the masses.
These false ideas are always overturned,but the process involves much pain and blood letting.
It was goodbye to Hitlerism, then goodbye to Marxism, one day it will be goodbye to Nu Labourism, and multi-cultism, and one day as well it will be good by to Mohammedism.
Better to defeat your enemies at the first battle charge, than allow them to gain streenght while the Generals faff about.
Nevertheless, we shall prevail.