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Im in the process of writing my last post to this blog as a matter of discourse and for the record.
Before I do I wanted to leave this short piece up as I know what is coming.
(Supportive links embedded in post.)
Several months ago for absolutely no reason at all Pamela Geller (Atlas Shrugs blog) openly attacked me calling me a liar whilst having an online debate with someone. I haven't read the whole thing, just a little bit third hand which was enough. I wasn’t even mentioned in her online argument she just used the opportunity to broadside me in the public domain, and attack me (for what?).
I never said anything in response or in defence at the time as I had other things going on. A more detailed account of this personal attack will be in my final post.
What it was based upon was my asking her about interviewing Nick Griffin of the BNP on her blog radio. I am a Christian first and foremost and my main objective in life is sharing the truth of salvation with others whoever they are and from whatever walk of life they come from. It does have eternal consequences after all. As a Christian we know that Christ died for all, with no exceptions, and that includes Nick Griffin or anyone else. His beliefs and actions based upon his life are his before the Lord just like with all of us.
If questioned I would never have denied asking Pamela Geller to have Nick Griffin on her blog radio, why would I when I know I asked her? Not very logical is it, and I’m not a liar as she has stated.
Maybe I’m a fool for thinking it but I think you cannot change somebodies views or allow an audience to hear someone’s views unless you speak to them which is the whole purpose of having a radio programme. Even the BBC think the same that's why Nick Griffin eventually made it onto Question Time. So why wouldn’t I ask her if she would want to interview him considering I had been in contact with her, and she had used me for one of her programmes?
A close friend in America had been able to get Nick Griffin on one of the biggest Christian TV station’s in the US at the same time (2007). Because we Christians try and help whenever we can because it is in our nature regardless of what people say or do because Jesus is our example and we only have to look through the pages of the Holy Bible to see this. He is our judge and not people and their narrow minded opinions.
Our actions are not based upon reputation or money; they are based upon Jesus and His example, when we are walking in His ways.
So in reaching out to Nick Griffin at that moment in my life I was able with another Christian brother, to have Mr Griffin sit under a very powerful Christian ministry and contemplate his eternal salvation and share his personal and political views “good or bad” with a majority non-judgmental audience for them to make up their own minds. This was at the same time I asked Pamela Geller who flatly refused the request.
People’s opinions do not dictate my actions. Serving Jesus by my actions dictates my actions as it is Him who I will eventually answer to, and not you. When we are gone people’s opinions will not matter one I-o-ta.
At that moment in my life 3 years ago I had lost everything, my business, my home, my family life and my life was in danger. I went from living comfortably to sleeping in a car, and then being homeless. Along that journey via my good friend in America who is English and was born in India, one of his friends, a Nationalist and who was a member of the BNP offered me help and took me in. Him and another person helped me for a few months and then another BNP member offered me assistance.
I had no alternative but to accept this help and assistance and looked at it as a provision from the Lord and obviously used the time to find out Nationalistic views and share and debate my social and religious views and used these divine encounters to share my faith as any Christian would.
I am not anti-BNP because I know why people vote BNP and I know that there are many many normal people who do vote BNP because they are desperate and there is nowhere else for them to turn within the political landscape within Britain. There isnt a real British alternative to address the very real issues people are facing over mass migration and Islamisation in communities the length and breadth of the Country.
I am anti the Neo-Nazi fascist side of the BNP but that is not my concern because I am not a member of the BNP and the BNP do not threaten me, although I know they have played a hand in the hijacking of the English Defence League when it was first formed, and the subsequent smear campaign waged against me.
Now look at the internal state of the BNP with high profile sackings, people leaving in their droves, financial irregularities, and a turning back to the 1990's at the ballot box.
1 Chronicles 16:22 "Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no harm."
The neo-Nazi fascist elements linked to the EDL leadership are widely publicised now by the anti-Fascist websites.
Take from this what you will but the 2 BNP members, who helped me at a dire time in my life when I needed help, were both been booted from the Party. It was nothing to do with me, 2 completely separate incidents but both happened during and after meeting me. You have to ask yourself; what was God saying?
It was whilst staying with one of these people that I asked about Pamela Geller interviewing Nick Griffin. I cannot deny it and I wouldn’t deny it because it happened, so how and why she called me a liar without asking me a question or showing any proof that I was a liar is quite absurd and downright wrong when I had never done or said anything against her.
It’s a twist of fate now that a few months on from that public attack and insult against me on-behalf of Chris Renton & Co, the EDL leadership has been exposed for what it is. Amongst those who have the intelligence to think for themselves, and she is standing on the side lines as one of its biggest cheerleaders. Even all her credible Jewish allies have now come out opposing the EDL because of who it is being run and led by, and she is there standing in the middle of it knee deep in the *mud*. Still in denial and still trying to defend herself being knee deep in it because of how damaging to her public reputation it would be to admit what even her Jewish colleagues are saying. Damaged reputation means a loss of earnings from the anti-Jihad movement.
Bit late now though.
Video: EDL War & The Money
For the record, unlike the EDL leadership I have never voted BNP or for any other political party in my life. I have never been a member of the BNP in my life. I have never in my life elected my local BNP councilor or any other councilor, and I have never stood on the streets with a banner saying I am not BNP when I clearly was.
Video: EDL's Leaders & The BNP
Video: Another "Tommy Robinson" Pinocchio moment
Video: "Tommy Robinson" stage act to fool the British crowd
My final post to this blog will clear up a lot of things. My issue is not against the EDL movement, why would it be when I was the one who actually set it in place and in motion at the beginning. My issue is with its leadership which will be fully covered in my final post.
Nobody can call me a racist because I was under arrest for 18 months on suspicion of stirring up racial hatred, and after 18 months the CPS did not have any grounds to charge me. And nobody can call me a neo-Nazi because a neo-Nazi would not put his life on the line to help the Jewish State against her enemies.
You could ‘probably’ call me an Islamaphobe though.
Lionheart – In service of the King “the Lion of the tribe of Judah”
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
An individual by the name of (Rev.) Jim Sutter targeted our good friends at The Religion of Peace in an effort to shut down the site. The results of Sutter’s actions provoked a number of internet companies to incorrectly categorize The Religion of Peace. These incorrect categories have caused the site to be listed as a hate site, and consequently blocked by some servers. We know that the accusations made by Sutter, and the various companies are untrue. The Religion of Peace provides accurate facts about Islam – not lies. Nor can the site be accused of being racist. First of all Islam is not a race, it is a political religious ideology. Secondly, The Religion of Peace speaks out against all violence that is directed towards Non-Muslims and Muslims.
Anyone who has a blog that attempts to defend the west from radical Islam or Marxists knows that they are constantly at risk of being labeled racist, and shut down by individuals and organizations who do not want the truth to be known. The efforts to silence our voices will increase. We are all in this fight together. Therefore, it would be greatly appreciated if all of you would post a notice on your blogs, urging your readers to support The Religion of Peace by sending protest e-mails to the offending companies. Islam and the thought police are coming after all of us. Free speech is in jeopardy. We need to pull together into a strong and united force to combat those who intend to crush us.
Out of respect for others The Religion of Peace has avoided asking for assistance. They did not want to impose their problems onto anyone else. I have permission to make this appeal on their behalf.
Please ask your readers to contact the following companies with a short polite e-mail clearly stating that The Religion of Peace – http://www.thereligionofpeace.com (include the url in the e-mails) is against violence, not racist and should be categorized appropriately under labels such as General News, Politics and Religion.
To the best of our knowledge the e-mail addresses are correct. If anyone encounters problems please contact either myself or The Religion of Peace:
Secure Computing
e-mail: sites@securecomputing.com
SonicWall
e-mail: cfssupport@sonicwall.com
SurfControl
e-mail: customerservice@surfcontrol.com
Your assistance is greatly appreciated. Further background information is provided below: Jane
http://208.109.162.152/sutter/pages/case_study-TROP.htm
Case Study: TheReligionofPeace.com
How did Jim Sutter manage to get an anti-violence and anti-hate website by an anti-racialist owner classified as "violent," "obscene," "hateful," and "racist?" Here is the story from the preferably anonymous editor of TROP.
About TheReligionofPeace.com
From the Editor of TheReligionofPeace.com:
TROP was originally started in 2002 to help Muslims understand that there are more important things going on in the world than a woman being asked to remove her veil in front of a judge, or a Muslim man getting his feelings hurt at an airline security gate.
In an effort to spark moral perspective on the part of organizations like CAIR, we document acts of deadly violence committed in the name of Islamic supremacy, similar to the way other sites compile data on victims of all supremacist ideologies, whether racial, ethnic or nationalist.
In addition to maintaining a database of terrorist attacks, TROP presents news and articles from the Muslim world, as well as open reference information for anyone beginning research into Islam. We do not promote a particular religion and we try to stay non-partisan.
Although we obviously oppose the doctrinal elements of Islam that inspire violence or are in contradiction to liberal values, TROP has always taken a strong, documented stand against judging individuals by their group identity. In many places on our site we openly denounce harming, harassing or stereotyping any Muslim based on his or her religion.
Our site also has a record of acknowledging and condemning rare acts of violence against Muslims by American criminals, either in the U.S. or overseas. We publicly oppose desecrating the Qur'an and do not even use the term 'Islamofascism" in our writings. Since we only want to publish truthful information, we welcome dialogue and post any corrections that are proven necessary to us.
We focus on the moral failings of Islam and its incompatibilities with Western values, including women's rights, democratic freedoms, religious tolerance, and (ironically) freedom of expression among others. Nevertheless, we try to be balanced and accurate in our writing and to avoid using absolutes. We also make a documented effort to discourage bigoted thinking.
Although our site has nothing to do with race, we have let it be known that we are anti-racialist. Over the years, we have championed the cause of Africans, Arabs, Hindus, Buddhists and anyone else victimized in the name of Islam. We have received praise from liberals, conservatives, Jews, Christians, Hindus, atheists, gays and even a few disenchanted Muslims.
Jim Sutter Targets TheReligionofPeace.com
In July of 2007, I was contacted by a man eventually calling himself "Reverend Jim Sutter" regarding my website, TheReligionofPeace.com (TROP).
Sutter at first played the "Bad Cop" under an alias, claiming that ours site is a "hate site:"
"I will make it my business and consider it a solemn duty to condemn and expose the site called thereligionofpeace. IMO it is no different in any dicernable way than a site run by Al Qaeda, the KKK, or the Nazi party."
I replied politely to Sutter, pointing out that he was going to need to do more than just state an opinion, and I challenged him to support what he was saying. I told him that I was open-minded and would make any corrections that he could prove needed to be made. I also directed him to a page on our site in which we plainly separate ourselves from the insidious organizations to which he associated us.
In his reply, Sutter made it rather evident that he did not read the page to which we had directed him:
"You invite me to read "what to do about" which is just another bigoted exhortation to hate & violence. Wow. Then we have you writing this "this makes me suspicious". That figures too, since paranoia usually accompanies bigotry."
I then spelled out out for him what he was unwilling to read for himself - that TROP openly and unambiguously denounces all forms of violence and bigotry. The writings that we post which are critical of Islam are solidly supported by the Qur'an, Hadith, Sira (biography of Muhammad) and the historical record.
Sutter then contacted us the next day under his real name, pretending to have seen the site for the first time and clearly wearing the "Good Cop" hat. He complimented us on TROP, but suggested the changes that we needed to make in order to meet with his approval. I generously ignored his earlier correspondence and entered into a lengthy dialogue of about 20 e-mail messages, in which I challenged him to prove that his requested modifications were necessary.
(It is important to note that Sutter never once accused TROP of being either a "hate" site or a "racist" site once he began using his real name. I suspect that he told the URL search engines something entirely different in order to punish me for not backing down to his demands.)
Over the next week or so, I noticed a pattern with Sutter:
1) He would say things that weren't true. A good example:
"The FBI states that hate crimes against Muslims currently number higher than against any other group. Those hate crimes include murder, arson, rape, and kidnapping."
This is blatantly false, of course. No Muslims have been raped or kidnapped in America because of their religion, and 70% of the targets of religious hate crime are Jewish. (source)
2) When caught, Sutter would always ignore any lies, no matter how freshly told. This happened when I sent him the above link and asked three times where he got his erroneous information. I got no reply. It became obvious that he was making things up, but there was not the slightest bit of shame or even an attempt to divert blame. It was as if he felt entitled to say anything he pleased - all while making his usual claims of "fact, logic and evidence."
3) Sutter would play games in his replies. Sometimes he would plagiarize entire sections of text from other sources and pretend that they were his own words. Often times he would ignore an argument that wasn't going his way, and simply not quote it in his reply. Sometimes he would be intentionally naive, and pretend not to understand ideas that were made quite obvious.
When I realized that Sutter was not taking the conversation seriously, I let him know that there was no basis for our continuing the discussion. (I dialogue with sincere objectors, but I simply don't have time to get into food fights with disingenuous hacks).
It was only about a week later that I began hearing from military families and ordinary Internet users who were unable to get to our site. Despite being unable to make his case against us in open debate, Sutter decided to make good on his original threats to us:
"I'm contacting the proprietors of several databases of internet hate-sites to report thereligionofpeace, this will have the effect of blocking your site from being referenced, linked or quoted on the many discussion forums that bar those listed hate-sites, such as democratic underground."
After operating for five years without any sort of problems, Secure Computing, SurfControl and SonicWall had TROP blocked overnight by wrongfully classifying our site according to Jim Sutter's demands... all because we would not adopt his political and theological positions!
The correspondence with Internet censors concerning our site is not public information, but it is obtainable through a court order, since these are public corporations. Only then will I know whether Sutter used his real name, an alias, or had one of his gullible groupies do the dirty work for him. I do know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he is behind the censorship and miscategorizing of our site as well as the many other anti-Jihad sites across the Internet that have suffered recent problems.
Sutter is very good at sounding important. He often recites a small handful of court cases in order to embellish his correspondence with the Internet's largest censors (although even a small dose of legal research will find that these are not what they appear). Still, there is something terribly wrong with the system when one small bully is allowed to dictate personal ideological standards to large corporations and thus millions of Internet users.
Aftermath
The damage that Jim Sutter and others, including SonicWall, Secure Computing and SurfControl, have done is going to take months, perhaps years to rectify. For my site to be labeled as hate speech, "obscene" or "extreme" merely because we object to the extremist elements of the Islamic religion is anti-intellectual and smacks of McCarthyism.
How is it that a website primarily concerned with ending violence against people just because they worship a different god is labeled extreme and obscene? Have we really reached such a low point in America when one is not free to criticize violence and religious totalitarianism?
The association of TROP by SonicWall and the others with "racist" and "hate" sites is particularly slanderous to me, since I have a strong and provable record of actively opposing bigotry and racism, both professionally and personally. Anti-racialism and the utter ridiculousness of even categorizing people by race is one of the major themes of the novel that I wrote several years ago, for example. I also have a family member, who published a book about her childhood experience in a Nazi concentration camp, and who would be quite surprised by these public slurs.
For Jim Sutter to punish people like me for petty personal grudges is one thing. For companies like Sonic Wall, Secure Computing and SurfControl to go along with it is absolutely unconscionable.
Exhibits
How do the censors rate TROP against sites that are pro-Jihad or blatantly anti-Christian?
Let's use answering-christianity.com and JihadUnspun.com as examples.
"Answering-Christianity" is a Muslim site that is dedicated to promoting Islam and trashing Christianity using distortion and misinformation. The author once started to create a list of "Christian Terrorist Attacks" that he promised would be "5,000 times worse" than our list. He quit after only a few dozen entries that included such gems as terror attacks by Columbian drug lords and a 40-year-old church bombing by the Klan.
The editors of Jihad Unspun are blatant apologists for Islamic terrorism. They proudly make the connection between Islam and terrorism a lot more forcefully than does TROP, and they even criticize other Muslims for not joining. Recently, they posted a flattering review of Osama Bin Laden's videotaped address, complimenting the man who massacred thousands of Americans for inviting the survivors to embrace Islam.
Like TROP, Jihad Unspun reports Islamic terrorism. They report suicide bombings as 'martyrdom attacks' and provide justification for other 'Mujahideen' violence. They also inflate casualties from attack by several factors and even make up attacks that never happened.
So, how do Secure Computing, SurfControl and SonicWall feel about this?
Secure Computing
Secure Computing says that TROP is "Extreme, Violent, Obscene and Mature." However, it merely categorizes "Answering Christianity" as "Religion and Ideology." (Secure Computing and Answering Christianity).
Secure Computing also rates "Jihad Unspun" as "General News, Politics and Religion" (Secure Computing and Jihad Unspun)
SurfControl
SurfControl says that TROP is "Violent," however, the pro-Jihad and consistently unreliable "Jihad Unspun" is categorized as "News." (SurfControl) One also wonders why the list of terror attacks on TROP counts as violence, but not the list of attacks on IraqBodyCount.net (which is categorized as "Politics") nor that of Antiwar.com ("News").
SonicWall
SonicWall is particularly shameful. They say that TROP is "Violence/Hate/Racism" even though we are actually opposed to all three of these. But the company actually ranks the anti-Christian site, "Answering Christianity," as "Religion" and the pro-terror "Jihad Unspun" site as "News and Media." (SonicWall and TROP, SonicWall and Answering Christianity, SonicWall and Jihad Unspun).
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Several months ago for absolutely no reason at all Pamela Geller (Atlas Shrugs blog) openly attacked me calling me a liar whilst having an online debate with someone. I haven't read the whole thing, just a little bit third hand which was enough. I wasn’t even mentioned in her online argument she just used the opportunity to broadside me in the public domain, and attack me (for what?).
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