tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post6791003846916790631..comments2023-09-16T16:05:00.916+00:00Comments on Lionheart: HRH Prince William: Is he the long awaited annointed one?Lionhearthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16753849578919307544noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-17039059655781869202008-07-02T21:03:00.000+00:002008-07-02T21:03:00.000+00:00Dear Anon of July 2nd, 19:32:I appreciate that and...Dear Anon of July 2nd, 19:32:<BR/><BR/>I appreciate that and look forward to it. Thank you.<BR/><BR/>GospellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-46994161932067046132008-07-02T19:32:00.000+00:002008-07-02T19:32:00.000+00:00Hi gospeller, your comment is very clear and I thi...Hi gospeller, your comment is very clear and I think you have a very good point there.<BR/>I will look for some sources for you to check.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-44809861207316819642008-07-02T19:28:00.000+00:002008-07-02T19:28:00.000+00:00gervaise old grease-nipple, it was you who came he...gervaise old grease-nipple, it was you who came here with bashful obsceneties, calling Lionheart names relating to YOUR anal fixation.<BR/>So just to put matters right, I will repeat you are an arsehole and fuck off.<BR/>You are a disgrace to Scotland.<BR/>Go and lick Gordon Brown's problem area, as he scuppers the British economy.<BR/>Reliable, trustworthy, steady-as-you-go Scotsmen?<BR/>Piffle, balderdash and bollocks. (another good old Scottish word.)<BR/>I correct myself, you are not worthy to piss on your "Saint's" grave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-33723027217716034852008-07-02T18:42:00.000+00:002008-07-02T18:42:00.000+00:00With so many anonymouses joining in the fun, it is...With so many anonymouses joining in the fun, it is difficult to remember which is which, but anyway this message is addressed to the real charmer who ended his comment with obscenities containing asterisks, always a sign of bashfulness.<BR/>No, dear, I'm not a voyeur. I find these incoherent tirades depressing: I only contributed in the hope of getting a rise out of you and boy, did I succeed! <BR/>I shan't be back here, but if you want to keep in touch with me and publish another load of illiterate tripe on the internet, by all means make a comment on my blog.<BR/>Take care, now. All the best<BR/>GervaseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-23317804325856268372008-07-02T12:59:00.000+00:002008-07-02T12:59:00.000+00:00Dear Anon of July 2nd, 12:19:Oral versions of hist...Dear Anon of July 2nd, 12:19:<BR/><BR/>Oral versions of history change over time, as in the game of "Chinese whispers". The purpose of writing something down is to freeze it for posterity. The gospels were written down very soon after the events they describe by people who believed they were dealing with a holy God whose word they dared not falsify. That is the (secular) reason why I believe every word. In contrast, the interval between the events described in Irish oral tradition and its writing down is huge. It is not impossible to recover the facts at the core of most legends, but it is very difficult - the outstanding example is "Lords Of Avaris" in which David Rohl looks at Greek myths and legends in the light of archaeology, astronomy, interactions with other civilisations, etymology etc. You need all of these approaches.<BR/><BR/>I worry that these claims meet an emotional need which makes people uncritical of them. I do not discount them and they interest me, but they must be weighed very carefully. In particular, the earliest written references must take priority over later ones. That is why I keep asking (unsuccessfully!) for what they say.<BR/><BR/>GospellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-39818542466760120912008-07-02T12:32:00.000+00:002008-07-02T12:32:00.000+00:00Northern Irelandhttp://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/20...Northern Ireland<BR/><BR/>http://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/2007/05/northern-ireland-light-to-humanity.htmlLionhearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16753849578919307544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-87779088074807849862008-07-02T12:19:00.000+00:002008-07-02T12:19:00.000+00:00gospeller, joanne and others.The record of old Iri...gospeller, joanne and others.<BR/>The record of old Irish history of Kings exists in Irish tradition<BR/>Transmitted as verse and song in much the way that the history of the ancient British is recorded in the Welsh(Prittish) oral tradition.<BR/>All of this has now been written down.<BR/>Ireland was once of the holiest places on Earth, as was the British Isles in general.<BR/>What is left of those times is most noticeable in the presence of places such as barrows, stone-circles,standing stones, hill-forts, and much archaeological record.<BR/>Do not expect an archaeologist to speculate on wisdom though.<BR/>Many Christians have subscribed to the notion that all pre-Christian history was somehow "pagan" and thereby "wicked."<BR/>Not so.<BR/>There pre-existed an ancient wisdom, mainly transmitted orally, and mostly lost as Christianity was super-imposed upon the pre-historic past.<BR/>At much the same times as the Old Testament refers to, our lands were not devoid of Civilisation.<BR/>Modern history and it's adherents find it inconvenient to think outside the box of Greece and Rome.<BR/>Before Augustine and Patrick, there existed the foundation upon which Christ's precepts and his word, found a rich and fertile soil to grow in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-74112707773590663442008-07-02T12:02:00.000+00:002008-07-02T12:02:00.000+00:00gervase, when I commented to you, I expected a re...gervase, when I commented to you, I expected a reply worthy of the status to which you lay claim.<BR/>Instead of some historical or political analysis, you sounded off with a base insult in which you refer to Lionheart in terms couched to refer to the ANAL regions of the human body.<BR/>So, lets agree on one thing then, you are a voyeur and Lionheart's blog has got your attention.<BR/><BR/>I know where LH is coming from, it is a town called Luton, and if you study the blog, you will see that it is where the Pakistani Muslim murderers set off from, on their way to London to kill over 50 people on buses and tube trains.<BR/>Yes, I am NOT surprised that you do not want to go there.<BR/>Neither am I surprised that you would rather forget the well educated NHS doctors who tried to immolate travellers at Glasgow Airport, but thank Christ, only succeeded in burning themselves, good riddance to them.<BR/><BR/>It is a place where those folks of your bent, dare not look, for it spoils the rosy-pink tint in your irises, that allows your brain to see things only as you would like.<BR/>You disappoint me, as a lecturer I should have suspected you were infected with the same Marxist/Socialist virus that is dragging down all hope of survival of the Celtic race along with your British cousins.<BR/>Learn the words to the Shahadda, for you, a man of your education, it should be easy as pissing on the grave of Rabbie Burns.<BR/>Go to your home amongst the weak and mentally defectives that exchange their birthright for a forsaken meme that will expunge all your past heritage, and control your future without the need to think for yourself.<BR/>As you have lowered yourself to insult with the use of cloaked references to the anal regions, and as you are so vain that your return to read this response is guaranteed, let me be plain and return the compliments you made, but without your reticence at the use of vulgarity.<BR/>YOU ARE AN ARSEH*LE F*CK OFF!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-23949008316448140392008-07-02T08:05:00.000+00:002008-07-02T08:05:00.000+00:00Some years ago one of my young francophone student...Some years ago one of my young francophone students, wanting to express her gratitude for a grant I had obtained for her, got the phrase slightly wrong and said, "I thank you from the heart of my bottom".<BR/>In this sense I agree with Anonymous when he says that Lionheart writes from the heart.<BR/>Anonymous also says that he knows where Lionheart is coming from. So do I: it's not a place I would want to visit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-39492926889049097112008-07-01T22:28:00.000+00:002008-07-01T22:28:00.000+00:00Gervaise, Lionheart writes from the heart.I for o...Gervaise, Lionheart writes from the heart.<BR/>I for one do not expect a perfect analysis from him, on such abstruse subjects, yet I know where he is coming from.<BR/>Better he write and stimulate discussion, than not write for fear he may make some little slip of historic accuracy.<BR/>Where is your imagination Sir?<BR/>Better that you should contribute some small gem of your knowledge, than just to pass with a flick of your fly-swatch.<BR/>There are many legendary tales, that describe the sleeping warrior that shall awaken to defend the Realm, when things are getting tough.<BR/>This appears to be common amongst the heirs of the Celts.<BR/>Arthur, the Pendragon, the Sleeping warrior, are these not all Universal archetypes?<BR/>Are they not manifestations of the hearts and minds of Man searching for freedom and justice?<BR/>D'ye not love yor ain folks heroes?<BR/>When troubled times are close, then we seek for the words of poets and statesmen, of Saints and Saviours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-51060346354630560832008-06-30T01:01:00.000+00:002008-06-30T01:01:00.000+00:00Dear JoanneIn one way we are tantalisingly close t...Dear Joanne<BR/><BR/>In one way we are tantalisingly close to agreement, in another way we are far from it. I know that the Bible speaks of daughters of Zedekiah, but it gives no names or destinations for them. I accept the accuracy of the Bible, since I believe it is the word of God; and I do believe only what I can understand - but on the basis of original documents. I again request a quote from an ancient document (not from a 19th or 20th century scholar's interpretation) which presents clear evidence that a Queen Tea-Tephi of Ireland was King Zedekiah of Judah's daughter, and/or came over with Jeremiah and the Stone of Destiny. I worry that scholars of the last 200 years might simply be amplifying mistakes by building on each other rather than on the original documents. The way to be confident is to go back to those documents. If no-one who has read the modern writers offers an ancient document that clearly makes the case (and I have asked 4 times) then what am I to conclude?<BR/><BR/>GospellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-91267550564364621992008-06-29T20:04:00.000+00:002008-06-29T20:04:00.000+00:00Gospeller - yes these books do present a lot of ev...Gospeller - yes these books do present a lot of evidence and many more books are filled with information you will be able to research. The Old Testament is not silent on the daughters of Zedekiah, and written history will show to you where Tamar Tephi meaning "tender beautiful one" ended up. Those are excellent books I recommend; they are an easy read and are chaulked full of information. There are many websites on the internet, but any I've given to you, anyone can google to find information. I find the books and the Bible far more reliable because of their authors. Believe only what you can understand and question everything against the Word of God. I hope you will read the books; I can't tell you how wonderful I found them to be.Joannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04644244465548927962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-90064379447145679292008-06-29T10:17:00.000+00:002008-06-29T10:17:00.000+00:00Lionheart: "We cannot be certain about all of the ...Lionheart: "We cannot be certain about all of the facts surrounding King Arthur.." Actually, we can't be certain of <B>any</B> of the facts about Arthur. It's a nice legend, but nothing more; most of it stems from the Malory's 15th century collection of tales called Le Morte d'Arthur.<BR/>One thing, though, is certain: Arthur could hardly have defended his people against the Romans in the Middle Ages as you suggest, because there were no Romans left here by then. I think you should do a little more study before writing on these matters. I will be happy to recommend some books for you to read since I have been studying Arthurian lore for more than thirty years. <BR/>And another thing: has anyone told Prince William that he was "born, blessed and anointed to lead and save his people from the greatest of perils in hundreds of years", or are you keeping it a secret from him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-65843306011844880122008-06-29T08:53:00.000+00:002008-06-29T08:53:00.000+00:00Dear JoanneYes, exciting times. The Levite priesth...Dear Joanne<BR/><BR/>Yes, exciting times. The Levite priesthood has already been proven by DNA testing.<BR/><BR/>I know and accept the Bible as history, but the Old Testament is silent on a daughter of Zedekiah reaching Ireland (with or without Jeremiah and the Stone of Destiny), so we must look elsewhere. My eyes aren't closed and I am familiar with the claims made by writers of the last 150 years; I simply want references to ancient documents backing up those claims. If the identity and content of such ancient documents are specified explicitly in the website and books you recommend then I'll gladly look at them - are they, please?<BR/><BR/>GospellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-61767789591374194612008-06-29T00:51:00.000+00:002008-06-29T00:51:00.000+00:00"DNA testing will soon identify the Lost Tribes af..."DNA testing will soon identify the Lost Tribes after 2700 years. I can't wait!" by Gospeller<BR/><BR/>I have thought of this myself - how interesting that we both think this may be so.<BR/><BR/>I lost a post of mine somewhere; I was sure it posted, so if there is a repeat somewhere, please ignore it.Joannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04644244465548927962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-69282421138424513462008-06-29T00:48:00.000+00:002008-06-29T00:48:00.000+00:00Gospellerhttp://www.covpub.co.uk/index.phpI recomm...Gospeller<BR/><BR/>http://www.covpub.co.uk/index.php<BR/><BR/>I recommend two books for starters - Britain Awake, David Hilliard and Abrahamic Covenant, G. R. Hawtin. I do not know if you are in Britain or not, but you can order these books in Canada and the U.S. also. These books will open your eyes, and they use bible quotes to make their points.<BR/><BR/>Good luck and God BlessJoannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04644244465548927962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-2799798830489419792008-06-28T08:28:00.000+00:002008-06-28T08:28:00.000+00:00Dear Anonymous LadyThe danger is that one writer f...Dear Anonymous Lady<BR/><BR/>The danger is that one writer from the modern era gets it wrong and others then quote him without doing their homework. That is why historians always work with material from as close as they can find to the events they study. So please take me back to surviving ancient documents - which ones indicate that a Queen Tea-Tephi of Ireland is the daughter of King Zedekiah of Judah, and that Jeremiah brought her and the Stone of Destiny from the Holy Land?<BR/><BR/>If you do respond to me then, whatever else you say, please include an answer to this question.<BR/><BR/>Re the Genesis quotes - the Hebrew for "great nation" is equally well translated as "large tribe," and "group of nations" as "tribal groupings". Hundreds of years later, 1 Chronicles 5:23 tells us that "East Manasseh was a large tribe."<BR/><BR/>Even if Tea-Tephi was Zedekiah's daughter then the prophecies say that this line rules over Israelites, but the Irish to whom she is said to have fled were not Israelites.<BR/><BR/>DNA testing will soon identify the Lost Tribes after 2700 years. I can't wait!<BR/><BR/>GospellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-2156678795646280922008-06-27T22:55:00.000+00:002008-06-27T22:55:00.000+00:00Gospeller: I read the site you recommended. It was...Gospeller: I read the site you recommended. It was interesting but confusing. I didn't find its refutations on whether or not Jeremiah & Tea(Tephi) fled to Ireland more convincing than Mr. Armstrong's interpretations. <BR/><BR/>But in the end, the main fact remains undisputed, that Queen Elizabeth - whether or not she is descended from Tea(Tephi) - and I quote: "Not only is Queen Elizabeth II Scottish, SHE IS OF THE ROYAL LINE OF JUDAH!"<BR/> <BR/>Thus whether Jeremiah arrived in Ireland with 2 Davidian-line daughters or not, God's promise to David, as clearly stated in the Bible, has come true - that his line will continue until Messiah's coming.<BR/><BR/>By the way, what do you think of Jacob's blessings to Joseph's sons, Manessah & Ephraim. To which nations are they most likely to refer: Genesis 48:1-to end? Note the 'blessings' verses 13-15and especially: 17-20<BR/><BR/>Armstrong's interpretations of Jacob's blessings on his other sons, Genesis 49:1-27 are also interesting.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous LadyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-85498673776431860282008-06-27T10:04:00.000+00:002008-06-27T10:04:00.000+00:00Dear Joanne, and Anonymous(es?):I'm not disagreein...Dear Joanne, and Anonymous(es?):<BR/><BR/>I'm not disagreeing with your claims, I'm asking for evidence. What is there in ancient Irish law that is in Mosaic Law but not in the legal codes of other ancient civilisations? Which ancient documents state that Zedekiah's daughter reached Ireland with Jeremiah to become queen? It's not in the Old Testament, and Armstrong was debunked as a source by the website I referred to above.<BR/><BR/>We know of countless mediaeval legends that are nonsense. Mediaeval sources are valuable only if you can trace an unbroken chain of tradition back from them to the time to which they refer.<BR/><BR/>It is fine to be motivated by hope that something is true, but scholars cannot afford to let their hopes influence subsequent evaluation of the evidence.<BR/><BR/>I'm interested in these claims, but - evidence please!<BR/><BR/>GospellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-13327039271043486932008-06-27T09:34:00.000+00:002008-06-27T09:34:00.000+00:00In Ireland, there is a great stone known as Jeremi...In Ireland, there is a great stone known as Jeremiah's altar. It is a a place where many ancient stone constructions mark their ancient civilisation.<BR/>English Law, and thereby American Law, is said to have taken much content from ancient Irish Law, which is thought to have Hebrew origin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-36117767049537593172008-06-27T00:59:00.000+00:002008-06-27T00:59:00.000+00:00Anonymous Lady - very good of you to put forth suc...Anonymous Lady - very good of you to put forth such an effort in relaying your message.<BR/><BR/>Gospeller - Armstrong may believe what Anonymous Lady put forth to you, but he is just one of many who believe this to be true.<BR/><BR/>http://www.hooper-home.net/CHRONO/Daughters.html<BR/><BR/>Please note that in Jeremiah 41:10 "Then Ishmael carried away captive all the residue of the people that were in Mizpah, even the king's daughters,...."<BR/><BR/>and in Jeremiah 43:6 "Even men, and women, and children, and the king's daughters, ...."<BR/><BR/>Numbers 27:8 "And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a man die, and have no son, then ye shall cause his inheritance to pass unto his daughter."<BR/><BR/>The second daughter 'Scotia' who was also with Jeremiah the Prophet stayed in Spain on the first lap of the journey and is reputed to have married a Celto-Sythian Prince in Iberia(Spain) and later moved to Ireland.<BR/><BR/>Jeremiah had in his possession when they reached Ireland the "Lia Fail, now referred to as the "Stone of Destiny." Jeremiah's name was "Ollamh Fodhla," which means "Holy Seer" or "Prophet."<BR/><BR/>For information check out the ancient Chronicles of Ireland and such. This is no secret to Ireland's history.<BR/><BR/>The "Stone of Destiny" has been returned to Scotland for safekeeping - one has to wonder why this move was made - seems reasonable enough to me with what is going on in England.<BR/><BR/>Israel is not lost, just blind to who she is - but eyes will be opened. Millions of people taken captive from the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah do not simply vanish off the face of the earth like many would choose to believe.<BR/><BR/>Fascinating and wonderful - all of it.Joannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04644244465548927962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-58915737372362831952008-06-26T22:40:00.000+00:002008-06-26T22:40:00.000+00:00Dear Anonymous Lady of June 26th, 18:10:This is Go...Dear Anonymous Lady of June 26th, 18:10:<BR/><BR/>This is Gospeller. I recognise that this blog is not written for my benefit, so thank you for your comments.<BR/><BR/>I am familiar with (and believe in) all of the material and prophecies you quote from the Old Testament. I was going to ask what was your source of information that Jeremiah brought a daughter of King Zedekiah (and the Stone of Destiny) to Ireland, since this is not in scripture. But I guessed that you take it on trust from Armstrong. I haven't read him and seen which ancient sources he was working from, but I found this website:<BR/><BR/>http://www.biblemysteries.com/library/jeremiah.htm<BR/><BR/>Please note that the writer of this passage DOES believe that the British royal line is descended from King David, and accepts the Joseph of Arimathea story (in his last paragraph). But he finds Armstrong to be wholly unreliable. Unless this author is deliberately lying, I cannot trust Armstrong's work.<BR/><BR/>NB The prophecies in the Old Testament are that God WILL put someone of the house of David on the throne of Israel for ever. Although the line did not die out there was not a Davidic ruler of Israel from the Babylonian exile. I take it that this prophecy will be fulfilled at the Second Coming of Christ.<BR/><BR/>GospellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-53013453784547412042008-06-26T18:10:00.000+00:002008-06-26T18:10:00.000+00:00Dear Gospeller, The information below is taken fro...Dear Gospeller, <BR/>The information below is taken from the Bible and the writings of the late Herbert W. Armstrong (an American of Scottish descent), pastor general of the Worldwide Church of God (now called the Philadelphia Church of God). <BR/><BR/>Armstrong died at a venerable old age some years ago, but his legacy lives on under his successor Gerald Flurry.<BR/><BR/>In many of his amazing sermons, articles, books & booklets, Armstrong dealt with the Israelite origin of the British people and its Davidian royal family, as set out clearly in the Bible. The following are based on some of his writings:<BR/><BR/>II Samuel 23:1,5: "Now these were the last words of David...'God...<BR/>has made with me an EVERLASTING covenant, ordered in all things and SURE'" - i.e. when God makes a covenant ('Brit' in Hebrew) with someone, it will endure forever. <BR/><BR/>God is neither a cheat nor a liar. He does not break his word. When He curses a nation (or persons) that curse comes true. When He blesses them, the blessing comes true.<BR/><BR/>If David's dynasty had come to an end with Zedekiah, then God's word would have been broken and His word could not be relied upon or <BR/>'trusted'. But God does not lie or break his word. <BR/><BR/>He promised that David's line would continue for ever & that is the reality however hard it may be for some to stomach: II Samuel:<BR/>"..The word of the Lord came unto Nathan saying "Go and tell my servant David....'when your days will be fulfilled and you will sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, which will proceed from your loins [Solomon] & I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name [the 1st Temple] & I will establish the throne of his kingdom FOR EVER. I will be his father and he shall be my son. If he commits iniquity,I will chasten him with the rod of men & with the stripes of the children of men.But<BR/>my MERCY shall not leave him as I took it from Saul who I put away from me. And your house and your kingdom shall be established FOR EVER before you. YOUR THRONE WILL BE ESTABLISHED FOR EVER'"(II Sam.7:4-5,12-16).<BR/><BR/>Therefore, because God's word is binding and UNCONDITIONAL, David's throne must still exist today, an unbroken dynasty ruling over the Tribes of Israel & others:<BR/>II Chronicles 13: 4-5: "Hear me Jeroboam and all Israel, do you not know that the Eternal God of Israel gave the kingdom over Israel to David FOR EVER, even to him & to his sons by a perpetual covenant?"<BR/><BR/>After Zedekiah's death, the prophet Jeremiah took Thea-Tephi, Zedekiah's daughter (actually there was also another daughter) to the 'farthest isles' where she married the king who was also of the Tribe of Judah. Thus was David's dynasty transferred first to Ireland, then to Scotland & then England where it exists to this very day.<BR/><BR/>Armstrong quotes from the Bible to expain why a song called 'Zadok the Priest' is sung at every coronation in England (the one used since the 18th century was composed by Handel). <BR/><BR/>Zadok was one of the faithful who came to serve David when he took over the throne from Saul and began his reign in Hebron (1051 BC to 1011 BC) (I Chron. 12:26-28). All through David's reign, even when others (including David's own sons Absalom and Adonijah) rebelled against him, Zadok the Priest and his sons remained faithful to him till his death and<BR/>after. <BR/><BR/>It was Zadok who, at David's behest, anointed Solomon as King of Israel and this ceremony continues in British coronations, though there have been attempts to remove the religious aspects surrounding it. The service is the same as that used by Archbishop Dunstan at King Edgar's coronation at Bath in 973 AD! <BR/><BR/>Armstrong also mentions the <BR/>'unmentionable':"Some in England know the royal family's ancestry can be traced all the way back to King David. But it is NOT INTELLECTUALLY FASHIONABLE to believe that today." <BR/><BR/>He also explains the significance of the Stone of Scone (or the <BR/>'pillar-stone') on which Jacob laid his head before he wrestled with the angel. The stone, which symbolizes David throne, was to be 'overturned' (i.e. be taken from one country to another) 3 times before the Messiah comes: "I will overturn, overturn, overturn it and then it shall be no more until He comes whose right it is, and I will give it to him." (Ezek. 21:27). Thus, kings of Ireland, Scotland & England have been crowned sitting on a throne over this stone until today. But it is no longer at Westminster Abbey having been 'returned' to Scotland by the Queen a few years ago.<BR/><BR/>How did this 'sacred' stone reach the British Isles? <BR/><BR/>When Jeremiah fled with the 2 young daughters of the last Davidian king, to the safety of the 'far isles', he also carried with him that symbolic stone. <BR/> <BR/>Before Messiah's arrival (or return), the stone will be taken to a place of 'safety', Armstrong noted: "This is what God did in Jeremiah's time. God never let the stone fall into the hands of the Gentiles..." Maybe that is why the stone was 'returned' to Scotland a few years' ago. <BR/><BR/>Now we await the fulfillment of the rest of the prophecies around the Davidian Dynasty mainly that a descendant will still be reigning when the Messiah comes to save what's left of the world & the nations.<BR/><BR/>The Davidic Covenant: God made a covenant ('Brit' in Hebrew) with<BR/>the descendants of Jacob (Israel) that He would set David & his descendants on His earthly throne until the coming of the Messiah:<BR/>"Then Solomon sat on the throne of the ETERNAL as king instead of David his father" (I Chron. 29:23; II Chron. 9:8)<BR/><BR/>There's more, but I'm pooped, so I'll end here .... for the time being.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous LadyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-30389691049839679762008-06-26T12:35:00.000+00:002008-06-26T12:35:00.000+00:00Anonymous 25-Jun-2008 10:14:00I think it is going ...Anonymous 25-Jun-2008 10:14:00<BR/><BR/>I think it is going to take something more constructive than Gordon Brown talking about globalisation and using the words New World Order.<BR/><BR/>I agree in the bigger picture there are 'powers' at work in our society, subtly manipulating us, shaping our opionions through the media and national institutions but I think it is dangerous without proof by proclaiming certain individuals want to take over the world.<BR/><BR/>This kind of thing was done is the 30's in Germany with the Jews and that is how Hitler got into power. Maybe you believe that the Jews are behind this New World Order? <BR/><BR/>As I said, there needs to be proof before anything can be opposed and we need to know ourselves why we are opposing it, only a fool would do otherwise because as the Saxon song Crusader goes<BR/><BR/>Fight the good fight<BR/>Believe what is right<BR/>Crusader, the Lord of the Realm<BR/>Fight the good fight<BR/>With all your might<BR/>Crusader, the Lord of the Realm<BR/><BR/>http://lyrics.rockmagic.net/lyrics/saxon/crusader_1984.html#01Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-2527314409622623542008-06-26T10:11:00.000+00:002008-06-26T10:11:00.000+00:00Dear Joanne, and Anonymous of June 25th, 23:22:Gos...Dear Joanne, and Anonymous of June 25th, 23:22:<BR/><BR/>Gospeller here. I am sceptical for reasons I'll explain, but am interested in checking it out for myself and would like to know more. We do know that the northern "lost tribes" of Israel who vanished from history after the Assyrian invasion are around somewhere, for their identity will be made known in the future acording to scripture. My best guess is the Armenians but I could easily be wrong.<BR/><BR/>As an evangelical Christian I take the Bible as reliable. There is a secular reason for this, too: Jews would not dare make up stories about their fearsome omnipotent God. Regarding other historical sources, tradition has value only if it is unbroken from the events it describes. I doubt the historicity of mediaeval claims about what went on 1500 years before given that there was a Dark Age between. Even if you have unbroken tradition then you must demythologise it, for the ancient Greeks and others freely put words into the mouths of historical characters according to what they believe they should have said. (The same mindset gave us the apocryphal gospels.) An outstanding example of how to disentangle truth from myth is David Rohl's book "The Lords of Avaris" about the ancient Mediterranean. It is a multidisciplinary task that involves information from all sources and takes great scholarship. I do not agree that "The only way to sample the truths outside of the written word, is to stand on those sacred spots and feel the ripples of time pass through your soul." Such methods never lead to unanimity.<BR/><BR/>So I trust the genealogies in the Old Testament and I am very interested in what Julius Caesar and the ancient Roman historians said about British and Irish kings, but I doubt the value of Geoffrey of Monmouth.<BR/><BR/>What is the historical evidence that Zedekiah's daughter became Queen of Ireland, please? That is the big jump in the genealogy you have kindly set out. From the dual names you give, the Irish and Israelite lines seem to be identified for some centuries before Zedekiah, but the Hebrew and Gaelic names do not sound similar to me.<BR/><BR/>I don't believe Jesus ever came to England, because under Jewish Law, which the Bible says he kept perfectly, he had to be in Jerusalem three times each year.<BR/><BR/>GospellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com