tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post6495283575896972689..comments2023-09-16T16:05:00.916+00:00Comments on Lionheart: Top Lawyer says we must adopt ShariaLionhearthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16753849578919307544noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-12510431854732357962008-07-08T11:43:00.000+00:002008-07-08T11:43:00.000+00:00Dear Anon of July 8th, 11:26How shall the churches...Dear Anon of July 8th, 11:26<BR/><BR/>How shall the churches unite? The original, scriptural church structure was a congegation in each place. Then a hierarchy grew between the congregations and God. Then the hierarchy split into rival hierarchies. Answer to your question: Get rid of church hierarchies!<BR/><BR/>Not many people vote their own jobs away, though. God can remove the hierarchies through persecution - which has historically been how he kept his people pure.<BR/><BR/>Incidentally Islam is at least as divided as Christianity. Sunni (itself subdivided), Shia, Sufi, Ahmadiyya...<BR/><BR/>GospellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-82665622119081578962008-07-08T11:26:00.000+00:002008-07-08T11:26:00.000+00:00I notice that one of many criticisms used by Musli...I notice that one of many criticisms used by Muslims to recruit Christians into the jihadic cult, is the disparity and proliferation of many differing branches of chritstianity, such as the J. Witnesses, Mormons, Methodists, baptist, not to mention the big two.<BR/>To the Muslim, difference is a sign of weakness.<BR/>So how shall the Churches unite if even the Anglicans fight amongst the pews.<BR/>Perhaps it's time for the congregation to seize the Churches in Christ's name, depose the usurpers of clergy and run the Church for themselves.<BR/>Maybe then the Churches would be full again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-53131503603462271522008-07-07T15:51:00.000+00:002008-07-07T15:51:00.000+00:00Dear Anonymous LadyI am glad that some of the proh...Dear Anonymous Lady<BR/><BR/>I am glad that some of the prohibitions in the 10 Commandments that concern moral relations are included in our legal system, even if the penalties differ.<BR/><BR/>I agree that the King James translators mistranslated the Hebrew as "Thou shalt not kill" rather than "Thou shalt not commit murder" - perhaps their biggest error, though they may have been influenced by the more ambiguous Greek verb where the command is quoted in Matthew 5:21.<BR/><BR/>When I said that Christ's comment "Love the Lord your God and love your neighbour as yourself" was his own, I meant that it was said by him rather than by (for example) Peter or St Paul. I am sorry that this was unclear. I know that it was Christ's response to Pharisees who asked him which were the most important bits of Mosaic Law. Bet they were surprised!<BR/><BR/>Every blessing<BR/><BR/>GospellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-28913371248908508032008-07-07T14:32:00.000+00:002008-07-07T14:32:00.000+00:00Dear Friend Gospeller,I agree with 99.9% of what y...Dear Friend Gospeller,<BR/><BR/>I agree with 99.9% of what you say and believe in, so I hope you won't be offended when I sometimes point out differences between us.<BR/><BR/>Let's say you are correct that some (the 1st 3) of the Commandments are not part of the basis of legal laws, but some of them certainly are: (6) You shall not MURDER (not "kill" which is an incorrect translation for the Hebrew "lo tirzach"); (7) You shall not commit adultery; (8) You shall not steal"; (9) "You shall not bear false witness (lie or libel) against your neighbour." <BR/><BR/>Of course, adultery is no longer considered a 'crime' but once it was. <BR/><BR/>The meaning of the 10th commandment doesn't just mean one shouldn't feel envy, but to beware of committing crimes because of envy (theft, murder, adultery, etc). <BR/><BR/>I would also like to point out that Christ (who assured his followers that he had no intention of changing a single word of the Torah but rather of preserving the words of the Torah) was not the originator of the commandment <BR/>'love your neighbour as yourself.' <BR/><BR/>You will find the exact commandment in Leviticus 19:18 -"You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF..." [Hebrew-English Bible (Old and New Testaments) pg. 183, I.A.D.B.W and B.S.I, Jerusalem, 1997 and The Bible, Revised Standard Version (Old and New Testaments), First Paperback Bible, pg. 104, Collins Fontana Books].<BR/><BR/>I believe that Jesus did originate <BR/>"Turn the Other Cheek" and maybe also "Love your enemies".<BR/><BR/>Best Wishes,<BR/>Anonymous LadyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-69895474294798308782008-07-07T12:24:00.000+00:002008-07-07T12:24:00.000+00:00PS British Law based on the Ten Commandments? That...PS British Law based on the Ten Commandments? That was King Alfred's idea, but the first three Commands violate the New Testament approach that to follow God in Christ is a personal choice. (Those laws were part of a covenant agreed between Israel and God, not Britain and God.) Regarding the last Command, you can't pass a law forbidding envy of what your neighbour has.<BR/><BR/>I do regard the Mosaic laws governing interpersonal relations as models for gentile legal codes, but we haven't executed murderers for some decades now, and we don't even prosecute adulterers, let alone execute them.<BR/><BR/>I used to worship in a church that had the Ten Commandments up on the wall. As a Christian I would have liked to replace them by Christ's own summary of how to live, "Love the Lord your God and love your neighbour as yourself".<BR/><BR/>GospellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-45319895611475625312008-07-07T12:07:00.000+00:002008-07-07T12:07:00.000+00:00Dear Anonymous LadyYou wrote: "Messiah you better ...Dear Anonymous Lady<BR/><BR/>You wrote: "Messiah you better hurry as things are getting outta hand faster than any believer ever imagined."<BR/><BR/>Not so - Daniel (9:26) foretold that the end would come like a flood. With the Jews back in the Holy Land, necesary for fulfilment of the endtime prophecies that Jesus Christ will return bodily to this earth (Acts 1:11) to save Israel from a world dictator and then rule (Rev 13 & 19 and Old Testament prophecy); and with the spiritual World Cup Final obviously approaching between secular humanism and Islam, we are clearly in those times.<BR/><BR/>Do not fear when times get rough, for God told us that they would at this time. He predicted the return of the Jews and globalisation more than 2000 years ago and he is in full control. Love your country but love God more, for every land other than Israel is going to become a hateful place in these times.<BR/><BR/>GospellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-45557568521260722102008-07-06T19:18:00.000+00:002008-07-06T19:18:00.000+00:00So if the government incorporates Sharia into the ...So if the government incorporates Sharia into the British legal system, let's hope the Buddhists, Hindus, Wiccans, Druids, Greek and Russian Orthodox, Ethiopian Christian, Voodoo, Flying-Saucers- Are-God, Flat Earth believers also demand that their laws be incorporated into British Law.<BR/><BR/>Won't that be fun, then, Smiley Face Hockman, Rowan Williams & other Sharia fans? <BR/><BR/>Actually, it will so muddle up British law that prisons will be full to bursting (probably with innocent victims instead of criminals), lawyers will start committing suicide because of the work load and the impossibility of studying the new British Combinations Law, meaning that students would be graduating at the age of 55 - if they live that long. <BR/><BR/>Hopefully Hockman will so regret his nonsensical, unpatriotic, illegal suggestion, that he'll end up in a straightjacket, banging his head on the walls of his padded cell 24 hours day in the Asylum for Stupid, Irresponsible Lawyers, Judges, Police Persons and Other Legal Nutters (which is most of them...!) <BR/><BR/>No need for the Sanhedrin (ancient Jewish) Law to be incorporated as British(US and even some European) law is based on the 10 Commandments.<BR/><BR/>Messiah you better hurry as things are getting outta hand faster than any believer ever imagined.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous LadyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-15655933040494070292008-07-06T10:45:00.000+00:002008-07-06T10:45:00.000+00:00guy marcher @ 06-Jul-2008 01:15:00Many people thin...guy marcher @ 06-Jul-2008 01:15:00<BR/><BR/>Many people think that religion has no part in today's life and that secularism is an answer to the world's problems which they equate to be the caused by religion. The thing is that secularism can be considered as a competing faith and it is too weak with no solid foundations to base it's faith on to stand the onslaught of a sure and conservative religion like Islam.<BR/><BR/>As can be seen here in Europe and the UK, Islam will be eventually embraced by a large party of the secular population especially when it can be argued that most of the idealogical aims of the liberal left is similar to Islam in particular the dissolution of nation states in preference to internationalization. The only difference is in implementation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-57817168892631160402008-07-06T01:15:00.000+00:002008-07-06T01:15:00.000+00:00I agree that it makes no sense to turn from our ow...I agree that it makes no sense to turn from our own religious background to secularism only to turn to another alien religion.<BR/><BR/>The answer to not alienating a large portion of the population is to shut the door to the country. Nothing good is in the offing in a Muslimized Europe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-61813867136186776002008-07-05T21:04:00.000+00:002008-07-05T21:04:00.000+00:00Anonymous @ 05-Jul-2008 20:45:00There are small bu...Anonymous @ 05-Jul-2008 20:45:00<BR/><BR/>There are small but sure signs that as the government does not have the cash to bribe voters that they are going out and out to get the minority vote through introducing so called equality laws as can be seen by the one just passed recently.<BR/><BR/>http://news.scotsman.com/politics/Equality-supremo-Harman--admits.4229199.jp<BR/><BR/>There is no doubt that they will try to pass this into law unnoticed and with their current majority it will get introduced. <BR/><BR/>If it gets passed it will be a slippery slope to an inevitable two law system operating in this country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-49882043337574276792008-07-05T20:45:00.000+00:002008-07-05T20:45:00.000+00:00The government will introduce Sharia law wether it...The government will introduce Sharia law wether its citizens agree or not, but just because they introduce it it doesn,t mean that you have to recognize or abide by it. The day that we all have to bow down to this backward satanic cult is the day that they will find that tolerance only goes so far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-50770995453652230692008-07-05T20:33:00.000+00:002008-07-05T20:33:00.000+00:00Looks like another terrorist let loose:To quote fr...Looks like another terrorist let loose:<BR/><BR/>To quote from article:<BR/><BR/>A 45-year-old Algerian described by American prosecutors as the mastermind of an abortive plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport during millennium celebrations in 1999 has been released on tight bail conditions after seven years in British jails, court officials said Thursday.<BR/><BR/>The release of the unnamed Algerian is the second time in a little more than two weeks that a suspect named by prosecutors as having close ties to Osama bin Laden, but not charged, has been let out on bail in Britain pending a final court ruling on government deportation proceedings.<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/04/world/europe/04britain.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-75244986536453087312008-07-05T20:07:00.000+00:002008-07-05T20:07:00.000+00:00Quote from article:Mr Hockman said: 'Given the wor...Quote from article:<BR/><BR/>Mr Hockman said: 'Given the world situation and our own substantial Muslim population, it is vital that we look at ways to integrate Muslim culture into our own traditions.'<BR/><BR/>We have been traditionally a Christian country that over the last 4 decades have decided to become a secular country by the steady removal of Christian element from our institutions which are too well known for the need of me to link. Whether you agree with this or not, this is today's Britain.<BR/><BR/>This country has chosen to become a secular society and turned its back on traditional Christian values then why is the need to introduce another religions values back into it?<BR/><BR/>Another point. He says it is to help moslems to integrate into British society. How can he be right in saying for a religious group to fit into a secular society they need religious laws incorporated?<BR/><BR/>Before the likes of boredluton cries hypocrisy, it is well known that Christian charities have been refused Government funds because they are not inclusive yet moslem charities get them. <BR/><BR/>Pardon for the pun but there can't be one law for one and one for another.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342795813336394199.post-55711355084619149352008-07-05T19:22:00.000+00:002008-07-05T19:22:00.000+00:00Shari'a law is in some respects closer to Mosaic l...Shari'a law is in some respects closer to Mosaic law than is our present secular system. Mosaic law is God's model for much of a legal system. (We should not adopt the Mosaic laws about relations between individuals and God, because we are not a covenant nation and apostolic Christianity is an opt-in religion). So not all such change would be bad.<BR/><BR/>But any change would certainly not be for a good reason. Hockman is forgetting that the first generation of Muslim immigrants came here for a better quality of life than in Islamic lands. How does he think it got that way?<BR/><BR/>Above all, 40% of British Muslims want Shari'a law. In one sense that is alarming, but it also means that 60% DON'T - let alone the rest of us.<BR/><BR/>GospellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com